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Hello I bought city skyline on ps4 its a great game but I saw that I need a pc for assets mod and all that stuff so I gonna buy one :
Cpu i5 8600k 6 core
Gpu rx 580 4G ddr5
Ram 16G ddr4 3200Mhz
Ssd m.2 250G plus ssd 500Go
Alimentation seasonic 650w platinum
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On my laptop I'm at 0.5 fps, after refreshing all the ram use. I really need this game to run lot of mod and asset so please send a reply thank you!
 

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Hello I bought city skyline on ps4 its a great game but I saw that I need a pc for assets mod and all that stuff so I gonna buy one :
Cpu i5 8600k 6 core
Gpu rx 580 4G ddr5
Ram 16G ddr4 3200Mhz
Ssd m.2 250G plus ssd 500Go
Alimentation seasonic 650w platinum
Carte mère asus strix z370 h gaming
Watercooling Nzxt
Boîtier nzxt
On my laptop I'm at 0.5 fps, after refreshing all the ram use. I really need this game to run lot of mod and asset so please send a reply thank you!

The big issue I am concerned with is the 8600k. It is a 6-core/6-thread CPU. The game can utilize 4-core/8-thread CPUs. If you coukd swing a 6-core/12-thread 8700 or 8700k, that would give you a full 4-cores/8-threads for the game, plus and extra 2-cores/4-threads for windows and other tasks, and not max your CPU like the 8500k would and may cause lag when using mods.

Don't get me wrong, the 6-core/6-thread should be fine, As the 4-core/8-thread CPU is actually a full 4-core CPU with helper cores (Hyper-Threading cores) that have limited abilities. So 6-core/6-thread should be as powerful or better. But CPU will be taxed at 100% most of the time.

The rest looks great.

ps. You also have the option to go Ryzen 5 3600 (6-core/12-thread) or even 3700 or 3800 8-core/16-thread CPU. AMD are a bit cheaper and pretty much keeping up with Intel and seemingly reliable on my dozen or so builds for my friends over the past 3ish years. I have a Ryzen 1600 (6-core/12 threads) that has been great. and recently a Ryzen 2600 (6-core/12-thread) for a friend sitting here waiting on parts from delays from Covid virus.
 

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The big issue I am concerned with is the 8600k. It is a 6-core/6-thread CPU. The game can utilize 4-core/8-thread CPUs. If you coukd swing a 6-core/12-thread 8700 or 8700k, that would give you a full 4-cores/8-threads for the game, plus and extra 2-cores/4-threads for windows and other tasks, and not max your CPU like the 8500k would and may cause lag when using mods.

Don't get me wrong, the 6-core/6-thread should be fine, As the 4-core/8-thread CPU is actually a full 4-core CPU with helper cores (Hyper-Threading cores) that have limited abilities. So 6-core/6-thread should be as powerful or better. But CPU will be taxed at 100% most of the time.

The rest looks great.

ps. You also have the option to go Ryzen 5 3600 (6-core/12-thread) or even 3700 or 3800 8-core/16-thread CPU. AMD are a bit cheaper and pretty much keeping up with Intel and seemingly reliable on my dozen or so builds for my friends over the past 3ish years. I have a Ryzen 1600 (6-core/12 threads) that has been great. and recently a Ryzen 2600 (6-core/12-thread) for a friend sitting here waiting on parts from delays from Covid virus.
Thank you for your reply, if I overclock and put all the ressources on the run of the game, that will be fine I think. But if I want to get more threads I'm forced to change the cpu? Sorry im far to know how to build a pc myself
 

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Thank you for your reply, if I overclock and put all the ressources on the run of the game, that will be fine I think. But if I want to get more threads I'm forced to change the cpu? Sorry im far to know how to build a pc myself

Yes, each CPU has a set number of cores in them, some have additional helper cores called Hyperthreading (AMD has SMT) but they are limited in tasks they can perform. But you will need a different CPU if you want more cores. Of course they'll cost more. But 6-core/6-thread CPU should handle the game well enough, even with workshop.
 

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Doing pretty well with an i7-8700 3.2 GHz (six cores, twelve threads), 32 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, and a 2 TB HD as well.
Just a Nvidia GTX 1070 GPU, nothing special there, but it seems to work fine maxed out. Win 10 1909.

Definitely not complete bleeding edge setup, and I don't really play twitch games, anyway. But it's stable as a rock.

EDIT: I keep reading about people who are just putting in 16 GB RAM. Ugh. Don't do that for games like this that can suck up RAM like candy...

In my day job, we've started putting out 'normal' business computers for users with 16 GB instead of 8 GB.
 

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Hello,
Looking at areas to upgrade if possible. My current PC is a build I did from 2016. I have enough knowledge to choose parts and assemble myself, but not enough to really know the details of the specs of the parts. Anyway this is my current build:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 6M Skylake Quad-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 1151 91W
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) (I have two sets of these for a total of 64GB)
MoBo: MSI Z170A SLI LGA 1151 Intel Z170 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard

Thanks in advance!
 

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(I have two sets of these for a total of 64GB)
And why not installed?

If you Stick with MoBo there would only be the Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Prozessor for an upgrade and a 1080 Nvidia ... but this are slitghy improvments for the invest.
And if you would change MoBo, you could change evrething and this is a whole other disscusion.

BTW. MoBo Chip and CPU were Released Q3/2015 / to keep in mind for technical improvments.

Probly the Questions would be, for What else you use your Machine?
 

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And why not installed?

If you Stick with MoBo there would only be the Intel® Core™ i7-6700K Prozessor for an upgrade and a 1080 Nvidia ... but this are slitghy improvments for the invest.
And if you would change MoBo, you could change evrething and this is a whole other disscusion.

BTW. MoBo Chip and CPU were Released Q3/2015 / to keep in mind for technical improvments.

Probly the Questions would be, for What else you use your Machine?

Everything listed is installed, I was only pointing out that I had two sets of the listed RAM as that is not apparent in the store listing.
 

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Hello,
Looking at areas to upgrade if possible. My current PC is a build I did from 2016. I have enough knowledge to choose parts and assemble myself, but not enough to really know the details of the specs of the parts. Anyway this is my current build:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 6M Skylake Quad-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 1151 91W
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) (I have two sets of these for a total of 64GB)
MoBo: MSI Z170A SLI LGA 1151 Intel Z170 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard

Thanks in advance!

I guess the question is, why do you think you need to upgrade?

The only thing you could feasibly upgrade is your 6600k (4-core/4-thread)to either a 6700k or 7700k CPU (both 4-core/8-thread) for a little better simulation speed. The rest seems fine for this game.
 

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I guess the question is, why do you think you need to upgrade?

The only thing you could feasibly upgrade is your 6600k (4-core/4-thread)to either a 6700k or 7700k CPU (both 4-core/8-thread) for a little better simulation speed. The rest seems fine for this game.

Thank you for the reply! My main concern was with optimization. I knew the CPU i have was an older generation, and was wondering if there was something better I could get that would make a noticeable difference. I do have an additional question tho, in your experience, does RAM speed have any noticeably effect on the performance for Cities Skylines whether it be loading or simulation speed? My current RAM is DDR4 3200, and being a heavy Asset and Mod user, would a higher speed help in that regard?

Again, thank you for your response.
 

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Thank you for the reply! My main concern was with optimization.

Not sure what you mean by optimized. What do you think needs optimizing? A 6700 or 7700 CPU will give more threads to process a bigger city. The game was designed for 4-core/8-thread cities and will max out this game at this point.

I knew the CPU i have was an older generation, and was wondering if there was something better I could get that would make a noticeable difference.

In my experience, newer gen makes little difference. If you use tons of workshop, it may help a little from faster CPU clock speeds, but nothing significant over 6700 or 7700 CPUs. If you aren't running a lot of other apps in the background,

I do have an additional question tho, in your experience, does RAM speed have any noticeably effect on the performance for Cities Skylines whether it be loading or simulation speed? My current RAM is DDR4 3200, and being a heavy Asset and Mod user, would a higher speed help in that regard?

No, RAM is just a speedy SSD and has zero effects on performance, unless you have underrated RAM. A CPUs bus speed is all you need, exceeding it will have almost no effect for gaming at all.

For performance, CPU is king for cities skylines. You need a 4-core/8-thread CPU at 3.0 GHz or higher. Anything more won't help, other than workshop that are add-ons, and other apps that are running.

But if you can specify the things that you need optimized, then we can maybe tell you if you are at a limit or not.
 

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Not sure what you mean by optimized. What do you think needs optimizing? A 6700 or 7700 CPU will give more threads to process a bigger city. The game was designed for 4-core/8-thread cities and will max out this game at this point.



In my experience, newer gen makes little difference. If you use tons of workshop, it may help a little from faster CPU clock speeds, but nothing significant over 6700 or 7700 CPUs. If you aren't running a lot of other apps in the background,



No, RAM is just a speedy SSD and has zero effects on performance, unless you have underrated RAM. A CPUs bus speed is all you need, exceeding it will have almost no effect for gaming at all.

For performance, CPU is king for cities skylines. You need a 4-core/8-thread CPU at 3.0 GHz or higher. Anything more won't help, other than workshop that are add-ons, and other apps that are running.

But if you can specify the things that you need optimized, then we can maybe tell you if you are at a limit or not.


Sorry i'm probably using the wrong terminology regarding optimization, but your information on CPUs was what I was looking for regarding cores, threads and bus speed. You've been extremely helpful, thanks again.
 

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Thinking about buying a laptop to play. I mention laptop so you know that upgrading parts at a later date isn't an option so I need to have all the power necessary up front. I would like to know if either system will play (I think it should) and if extra RAM gives significantly better performance.

Choice A:
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (12 MB Cache, 6 Core, up to 4.50 GHz)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5
16GB DDR4-2666MHz, 2x8G

Choice B:
Same processor and video card
32GB DDR4-2666MHz, 2x16G

Thanks for the help.