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My Ironman game starting as Eadwin of Mercia has ended with this wonderful empire, though I remained a King. My final ruler was Æthelræd IX of Hwicee, King of England, Jerusalem and Romania. (The later two titles were Crusade titles, but I gave all the land to the Pope, and in return no one ever usurped them. Kept them as 'prestige' titles. The other Kingdoms I could form were de jure England and all titular by the end of the game.)

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Notable events include the Ilkhanate converting to Orthodoxy, then to Paulician, and due to the Byzantines exploding Paulician became the dominant sect. The Teutonic order won the Crusade for Anatolia, and the Papacy runs Jerusalem and Greece.

Its EUIV conversion for those interested.
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Is that TO in eastern Anatolia?
 

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My Ironman Bohemian Premyslid Panslavia :D Charlemagne start.
Finally managed to reform faith, go feudal and survive. I had so much fun so far and really was lucky. I had no troubles managing my vassals. Sometimes replaced a king or two and went on as usual. I only regret I can't change CoA of Carpathia which I created early on to secure our holdings.
The whole country is our family run mafia business.

Fun facts were that Carloman prevailed then imploded. Karlings now almost gone. The West was constantly occupied with warring the Ummayads. My high priests were all too keen to call great holly wars - De iure Germany and all of our far east were such conquests. All of Italy was aquired by a cousin of mine who was in fact son of an Italian princess concubine. Oh, how I laughed when I found out he had the claim and gave him a county and started the war right away. He then as an usurper King managed to pacify, replace or convert all of the peninsula.
We fought the Byzantines regularly. Now they are rather weak compared to us but used to be a real threat. It took a while until we liberated de iure Bulgaria, Serbia and Croatia.
Since Rome is the seat of our High Priest we plan to liberate Constantinopole later on too. Just because we can.

I had Hulegu assassinated as soon as he appeared. Now his son came instead with 140k army. Not sure if I give up the East at least for now as I really don't want to fight or even move troops there.

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So, because it's one of the areas I've so far played the least in (really), I decided to try my hands at a Byzantine Empire game. Started in the CM start as the count of Arborea, Italian Catholic Euphemio Oristani. I managed to take over the other province of Sardinia, Cagliari, within the first 10-20 years, but after that found myself stuck there as count under random viceroy duke lieges, always of house Isauros. I was employing a strategy where I was running Seniority, educating everyone with intrigue and always alternating between seducer and stabber characters. Spam marriages with one guy, then clear out the higher claimants with the next. Easier than switching focus because I tend to forget about that. Because of my low rank and dynastic prestige, I didn't get a great deal of good marriages - once I was close to beoming king of Serbia, but then Serbia got annexed.
At what I think was my sixth(?) character, the duchy title finally ended up in the emperor's hands for longer than 2 milliseconds, and I clicked this button I had honestly never clicked before: demand duchy from liege. This shifted me into Gavelkind and shortly after, a childless daughter in her late 40s inherited. Homosexual dad in his 70s had managed to have another baby daughter from his new wife though and failing that, I would have inherited the barony of Tusculum, so it wasn't all bad. My stab-seduce scheme broke at this point though, can't make a lot of bastards of my dynasty with an old woman. Change of plan was needed.
I had lost my home province to the Lombards some decades ago, but upgraded the Castle in Cagliari piled up lots of money throughout the years. There was medium CA, but the emperor had just lost an invasion of Armenia to the caliph (by the way, the Abassids lost that to a bastard dynasty of theirs not very long into the game, this Hasan dynasty fell apart through a decadence revolt... still larger than in normal start dates (honestly, 769 has to be my least favourite start there is,damn blobs... though this game turned out very 867-esque), but they lost Egypt, a lot of Persia and some parts here and there.
Anyway, the emperor had lost this war and, dumb as he was (really, he was slow), had a -180 or so penalty from held duchies. I have no idea why he was holding these duchies, but there was a 700% LCA faction, and I joined. It took seemingly forever to fire, but victory was almost certain with 28000 against 8... except that apparently our leader got captured in the first actual battle (I have no idea why else it would have happened that way), lost the war, I got my only county revoked. And it was granted to an Isauros. :mad:

That was the year 888. So, how successful had my family spreading been so far? A couple barons. Counts of Friesland and Naxos, Strategos of Split (now I think just count again), count of Catanzaro under the lombards. And, since 878, the duke of Poitou, Bounconte. I became this duke, who currently was in rebellion, to depose the last independant Karling with some guy from house Louping. WF had some severe viking problems so I actually came close to winning, but when Venice intervened, the war was over. Didn't have my title revoked though. I spent the next years plotting internally, removing my vassals' domestic alliances and taking their counties. Meanwhile, the last two Karling rulers were squabbling for the throne of WF - there was the rightful Godefroy branch, Godefroy I was king when I became duke, his descendants had the same name. And there was that guy's great-uncle Charles II, genius count of Vermandois with 31 Intrigue and a lot of bastards.
After I had taken control of Poitou, I decided to install this AI favourited Louping claimants' Carles son Gaston, because he would have no meaningful allies. So I fought him into power, converted from Italian to Occitan, betrothed his daughter to my nephew (meanwhile, I also had betrothed my son to the 2-year-old duchess of Normandy... and he died. So I broke my other sons' betrothal... and the duchess died under suspicious circumstances at age 15.)
Then he had a son and I realized I couldn't expand because of Crown Authority, so I declared war on him to take the county in question (actually was part of my duchy, but directly under the king) and reduce CA in one swoop. Before the war was over, he surrendered to another faction and Godefroy was back in power (which reset my battle war score :mad:)... but then he died and his 15-year old black son (Participazio doge of Venice, see aforementioned alliance, had a Mandé wife once, no idea how but the genetics lasted a few generations) Godefroy II was the one to surrender to me. Just to have a faction pop up to get some other Karling into power by the duke of Orleans, a son of Charles II. Because he had a lot of siblings, I didn't want that, invited him to my court, made him a monk and tried to kill him... only later I noticed he was a bastard. Oops.

So Crown Authority was raised again because my CB didn't block that apparantly, and I was still having a truce... so I killed the king, and fought one-year-old turkish-looking Godefroy III to get another one of Charles III bastards into power, who later became Charibert I de Dreaux. Only later, CA had been raised again so I was looking for what factions to start, I noticed that my Pictish wife Elaine Uib also had a claim on France, maybe she didn't have it while her father was alive. So I started another war to get her into power. Of course she gave it up within a year to another guy from Charles II line, a non-bastard called Loup. And then I got maimed from an event, died and this is where I am at the start of my third character's reign since the exile from Sardinia:

My border is the Maine-Tours-Bourges line. I can control and depose the French king almost effortlessly at this point (earlier I was needing mercs and still had some close battles) as despite lots of siblings, he has no good allies, only the duke of Normandy trying to beat up Vikings is dangerous to my forces... but if he surrenders to the eastern dukes, I can do whatever I want and still have my plans foiled. Valois is currently independant under Godefroy III who completely hated my father duke Pagano's guts for killing his father and taking away his crown but apparently is okay with Amaneus. Mother is 59. All I have to do is depose Loup for her again, and inherit. Maybe I'll faction for Primo first, so I won't have to go to high CA to get that. Elective is too risky as I'm Occitain and the other dukes are all French...
But from my original goal, I'm farther than ever. The Alachaisling (Lombardy, Saxony, Burgundy) and Hetanid (Aq, Germany) kingdoms are very reminiscent of the 867 Karling fractured mess... and both are stronger than France and in the way. I want to take revenge and destroy the Isauros to the last man, but their numbers and dynastic prestige are through the roof, I won't be able to take them on for a long time... Also, this has Sunset Invasion on, so that may become a problem as well.

I will also try to remove my other landed kin, as most of them serve the enemy... Poitou is the new home. Also, recently I had a game where I accidentally got my dynasty onto the Byz throne, and they changed my colour on the dynastic mapmode and kept calling me into pointless wars, that was annoying. And I don't want my dynasty screen to lag from 5000 members.

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Interestingly, both Sardinian counties are currently independent. Didn't know that. Still controlled by houses Alachaisling and Isauros though. Bulgaria got a liberation revolt (will probably only last a couple decades), slavic Croatia made a resurgence and I think Crimea also was under the blob before. Nice. Valencia is Norse.
Still, besides the dynasty names and cultures, this isn't terribly far off from the way the 867 start would turn out, unlike most 769 games where the world is split in 5 empires by Karlings, Sviþjod, Umayyads, Abassids, Byzantines with just some little pagans, Indians and Brits independent at the very far edges of the map.


Same game, 769 start as Arborea. 236 years have passed since the last post:

After very slowly chewing some land off Middle Francia and Burgundy after the Alachaislings lost Lombardy, around 1100 I noticed I have Sunset Invasion on and have to expand. Ate Aquitaine (now calling itself Burgundy but like Germany still under the Hetanid dynasty) very slowly and did a little expansion in the southeast. by the time I finished, maybe 20 years ago, I noticed the Suleyman sultanate that at some points had a 50k stack had finally collapsed and started kicking them around while they were down. Got a nice streak of claims against MF after a period of peace which saw them get uppity and actually attack me, now I finally control the last normal de jure duchy of France, Champagne. At the start of my fourth Spanish war, I stand here:



Starting to badly feel that need of an empire title, but my king is in his 60s and still needs 2000 prestige for a custom one, or 12% more counties for Francia.

Other realms:
Scotland and Ireland are still firmly under the Uib dynasty, which has enourmous dynastic prestige from just sitting in its little corner. They frequently get split by Gavelkind just to have Scotland conquer Ireland by claim again. Mumu has been independent for a longer while, but is also controlled by Uibs.
England was created by the Icelings in 941, for a long time ruled by the Agilolfings... they lost it a few years back and seem out of the game now. Icelings inherited it back, but got a queen and now they're facing extinction. Current dynasty is house Godhelming, not a big player. England tends to ally both me and my rivals, I find them rather annoying but not threatening anymore. At some point while still under the Bavarian dynasty, they took Scotland and seemed very close to create Brittania, but then it went back to status quo, the Uibs.

In continental Catholic Europe, a lot of land is integrated into Lombardy, my main rival at this point and major slowdown in history so far. Their strength is fluctuating between 20 and 50k men - after my Spanish conquests, I'm now at 30-40k and can reliably beat them in defensive wars by now if not distracted with another power, but never attacked them directly yet.
Middle Francia has been my punching bag for centuries ever since the Alachaislings lost their Lombard powerbase to the de Chaumontois and later the Rodings, but taking them out is a slow process. Good claimants to their lands are rare, I have no fabricate everything myself. Right now, they are ruled in fourth of fifth generation by the formerly Catalan house de Cambrils which I pushed to power to take away their Alachaisling dynastic prestige and alliances and maybe even convert them to Occitan, but they turned French. Meanwhile, the western half of the Hetanid empire is gone, and they're down to Frankish Germany. This one had been declining for years and was pretty much Bavaria's punching bag, but suddenly successfully pressed a claim on Bavaria. Which then got independent again, but under a new dynasty, the Huosi. These are currently my main priority ally, because they need to stand firmly against the giant purple threat in the East. The Alachaislings were perhaps an obstacle, but the Isauros are my sworn enemy and house Oristani still pursues its blood feud against this 6000 dynasty prestige monstrosity almost 300 years after the revocation of Cagliari.
And between all these merrily sits the Saxon/Germanic count of Mainz, undisturbed since the times of CM.
By the way, the last Karling recently died giving birth to a bastard. I was contemplating to save the dynasty and make them irrelevant counts, but then I looked again and they were gone. Had been barons of Meaux in Paris until the duke above them turned heretic and revoked it.


Beyond that, pagans. All the north is germanic and incredibly annoying. Sweden ceased to exist at some point but will probably return.
Lithuania did rebound after centuries of Russian and viking rule and was even close to reforming Romuva, conquering their way east along the baltic coast (they had Rügen!), but now isn't looking so hot anymore. Ruthenia looked like it was coing to Catholicize the east but first declined after Lithuania broke off (first to a Russian Catholic Dregovich brother, eventually...), now the rump state (now a single barony OPM, probably not long for this world - then again, looking at...) got brutalized by pagan Chernigov and the Mordvins from Rus who apparently lost their parts to Chernigov in a recent succession crisis. They have been pushing the vikings out of Finland, though, county by county. All they need to do to reform their reindeer faith is to get Ösel from the danes.

Rest of the map is Volga Bulgaria (Khazaria just vanished at some point), disunited Perm, a few steppe minors, a still West African Cisse Mali, a predominantly jain (minus Pala, they're buddhist) India with rather clean kingdom borders and Muslims.
As I said, the Umayyad successor dynasty of the Suleymanids recenty got toppled (though they still have Mauritania), and the new Atlasids have maybe a third of the old Andalusian strength, except they usually have less because of constant wars with me, MF and ... my new tactical allies, the Suleymanids.
Muhallabids are still in charge, below them Abyssinia is controlled by Somalis. Much to my annoyance, the Abassids recently retook the Caliphate after 300 years, and have been taking over a lot of land in Persia that used to be independent between then and now.

So.. not sure if I'll be able to take on the Aztecs and live to destroy Byzantium and then drive the several hundred Isauros to extinction before 1453. If I get annexed, I only have two relatives in Lombardy to take over - count of Catanzaro, since recently, duke of Ferrara (thanks Catanzaro, I had no hands in that). 1200 is so close, I'll not be able to be emperor by them... 63 years old, even if I created all kingdoms I could it wouldn't suffice... (and I really only want to create titular Navarra...)
 

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My 1241 Danmark game has come to an end. It was a great game, as a last finisher I won a Crusade for Kingdom of Hungary against Golden Horde, Ilkhanate and their reformed Tengri holy order.

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My first ever jewish empire (started in 1066 as Fatimids to get Kingdom of David achievement and decided to play a bit longer :p) There is small chunk of land in Abissinia but i will get it in a moment, It's IRONMAN of course :p
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And HRE is Cathar btw XD

And there is crusade for Italy going on XD
 
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An update on my Umayyad Empire. :)
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I conquered Rome because the Pope didn't stop calling crusades for Aquitaine. Next thing on the agenda: Invading Italy and linking up my territories.
 

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Oops, I "accidentally" reformed the Roman Empire.

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Ironman 2.1.6, Old Gods start. I was busily going Rurikid -> Kingdom of Rus -> Russia. Being way overpowered (Empire of Russia + Kingdoms of Lithuania, Denmark, Finland, Wallachia, Jerusalem+ vassalized Pope makes for a lot of money + armies), beat off the Mongols, and then trying/waiting for the Persistent Survivor Achievement, when I noticed that my wife was next in line for the Byzantine Empire. An assassination later, she was Empress, and doing quite well. Now trying to get S.P.Q.R., but a little over 100 years might be a bit too short to achieve that.

My Roman Empire vassals are quite busy expanding themselves too. Of course, the eventual succession crisis will be hell....
 

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The only thing I would disagree on would be the borders :p

But you can check who disagreed, and ask that person why

You're absolutely right! We must first erase that ugly green splotch of the Abbasids, convert the tribes of Mali, smudge off the Lithuanian upstarts, reunify Denmark, annex the Picts, march on Moscow during the Winter, and conquer India. In all, painting the whole map Roman. :p

Figus, hmm I guess I'll just have to ask him, or maybe he'll be kind enough to comment here, so I can possibly fix whatever problem it is immediately, I'm sure he's set off by the Roman tolerance of those evil Abbasids...
Yea, that must be it, gotta get rid of them,
Cassus Belli said:
Figus Doesn't Like Abbasids
*Takes complete control of all holdings with in realm and executes all members of realm, before turning every province culture to Greek*
Lol, no, but really, Figus, feed back is always appreciated.
 
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Why are you so botherd by disagrees...

Idk, the fact that they are hating on it without even saying why they are hating on it? While hate may not be the proper term here, that's just how it feels after dedicating some hundred hours to building it. Also, while I doubt it actually took hundreds of hours for this one save, it took 400+ to be able to come this far without being deposed, despite many unfortunate turns of events. So the message is, Rome wasn't built in a day, so don't hate on it without saying why you hate on it. If you think that, that was confusing, well so do I, I don't tend to study the inner workings of my own brain. :confused:
 
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Idk, the fact that they are hating on it without even saying why they are hating on it? While hate may not be the proper term here, that's just how it feels after dedicating some hundred hours to building it. Also, while I doubt it actually took hundreds of hours for this one save, it took 400+ to be able to come this far without being deposed, despite many unfortunate turns of events. So the message is, Rome wasn't built in a day, so don't hate on it without saying why you hate on it. If you think that, that was confusing, well so do I, I don't tend to study the inner workings of my own brain. :confused:
Disagreement isn't the same as hate.
 

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Disagreement isn't the same as hate.
It is in some cases. How can you "disagree" with someone posting about their empire in the empire thread? You disagree with opinions and arguments, not with someone stating the facts about their empire in a thread made for doing just that. It's clear that the people who disagreed with him just dislike him.
 
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It is in some cases. How can you "disagree" with someone posting about their empire in the empire thread? You disagree with opinions and arguments, not with someone stating the facts about their empire in a thread made for doing just that. It's clear that the people who disagreed with him just dislike him.
Maybe they just don't like the borders. :/
 
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Maybe they just pressed disagree for who knows what for reason... Point is it probaly isn't hate and if it is. So what? Why do you care about a random person on the internet disliking your post. What does it matter?