Positive Disasters

[thegreatuniter]

I love the disaster mechanic, but like peasant wars and civil wars, positive things could also happen to a nation. I'm thinking of a bonus to tech cost, like an innovative period, or a "rush for the new world" period that promotes colonization. Examples:

Rush for the new world/colonization rush:
- Diplomatic technology is ahead of time
- At least 2 colonists
- ......

+5% settler chance
+20 settler increase
(-10% tax efficiency)

Renaissance:
- Is Western
- Prestige is >75
- No more than one tech behind in ADM or DIP
- Ruler has at least 3 ADM skill
- Ruler has at least 3 DIP skill
- Income is at least 40 ducats

-1% yearly prestige decay
-10% idea cost
-5%/10%/15% development cost

Peaceful Nation
- Not at war
- No truces with any nation

-5% technology cost
-10% development cost
-20% stability cost

 

[Fluffy_Fishy]

I like it but what would you change the name of disasters to?

 

[GiftGruen]

Perhaps keep disaster for the negative ones and take something like golden age for the positive ones? They would have to be distinct from each other anyway since it wouldn't be appropriate to show a red alert with flame for an upcoming golden age.

 

[Fluffy_Fishy]

Trouble with that is that I don't think theres enough menu space to support them seperately, it would be better to call them something like major events but that conflicts with normal events.

 

[VincentX]

Oh, I'd love that! Gives me something to aim for other than get bigger/richer!

 

[moscal]

Stabilisation as positive disaster? In Divine et Impera mod this disaster exist.

 

[TheeBadJoke]

Maybe the positive disasters could be call Boons. Mostly based on how how fun it is to say.

 

[DDRussian]

I agree, this would be a pretty awesome addition to the game!

A few more ideas for "positive disasters" that I can think of would be the scientific revolution and the enlightenment.

 

[thegreatuniter]

Yeah, i don't think they should be called disasters, but just called them that way to show that they could use the current system.
Scientific Revolution and Enlightenment are great ones too.

Some of these might fit better in the triggered modifiers system, but then that system would need some expansion.

 

[TheDungen]

The effects should be more pronounced considering these things need to tick up to happen. I'd say the colonial rush one should actually give you and extra colonist (but not require two colonists to start with but rather something less permanent) otherwise it's too similiar to colonial entuisiasm.

 

[TheeBadJoke]

Maybe one called Liberty or Death for nations fighting an independence war, giving greater manpower recovery and slower war exhaustion.

 

[thegreatuniter]

Maybe one called Liberty or Death for nations fighting an independence war, giving greater manpower recovery and slower war exhaustion.

Great one!
Also, a economically great golden age or a militaristic period could be well represented by this.

Militarism
Ruler has a military skill of at least 3/4
Ruler has a diplomatic skill of less than 4
Country has at least three rivals
Country borders at least one rival
Country has completed at least two military idea groups

effects:
- -10% Military technology cost
- +1-2 yearly army tradition
- -0.025 monthly war exhaustion
- -10% stability cost
- +25% army maintenance/regiment cost

 

[saegoto]

Center of Enlightenment
is western
capital is in europe
has completed 6 ideas group
all techs are 22 level
none of the countries have disaster "Center of Enlightenment"

effect:
-20% idea cost (since last two ideas are mostly hard to get)

Enlightnement
is western
capital is in europe
has completed 6 ideas group
all techs are 22 level
bordering with a country that HAS disaster "Center of Enlightenment" or "Enlightenment"

effect: -10% idea cost

 

[TheDungen]

Let's ignore for a moment 'positive' and 'negative' 'disasters'. Perhaps all 'disasters' ought to have some benefits and some weaknesses. Sure some like civil war ought to be more negative than positive but still it'd be intresting. For an example, a bad situation in your homeland could lead to you losing basetax in your homeland but in return getting spikes of colonists in you colonies. Or a centre of enlightenement could get you culture quicker but also hollow out the power of a monarchy.

 

[GChapman]

I like the use of the disaster mechanism to have a positive use, but dont call it disaster...
Also: For disasters, you want them to dont fire and thus you're trying to not get them. For the once in this thread, you wanna have them. I dont know if the AI is capable to get them. Like the center of enlightenment, the human mostly beat the AI, so it becomes a boost for the human. So it makes the game more easy for humans. I dont know if i like that part of the mechanism...

 

[moscal]

@saegoto - western don't need MORE buff. Better new disaster for european country "obscurantism". Generally malus for technology/idea cost and events with rebels, brain drain, capital flight etc.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Discovery of the new world.

Is native american and has met western nation with capital in europe.

-50% manpower, -50% tax efficiency, -50% goods produced.

 

[moscal]

@ThePatriotOfDreumel
1) This is not positive disaster
2) This is completely ahistorical.

 

[saegoto]

he is trolling