Portugal suddenly losing its two north african provinces.

[Galaahd]

I was trying the demo as Portugal, trying out all the new features. I was in an alliance and royal marriage with Castille. I was mainly focused on developing colonies and technology, when Castille called me to war against Morocco (holy war or crusade CB, I believe). I answered the call, and in the moment I clicked and entered the war my two provinces in North Africa, Ceuta and another one, suddenly switched hands to Morocco :blink: They became provinces of Morocco, for no apparent reason, as soon as I joined the war. I had an army statione in Ceuta, and it instantly started to siege the garrison which, until the last day, was MY garrison.

I really don't know what happened. Bug? Or something I missed?

 

[Gemberkoekje]

There is a bug where a peace treaty doesn't get a popup.

When England did the peace treaty, they decided to give back the provinces to Morocco, return cores or whatnot. You can disable this in the war screen, where it says "Lead country can alter my provinces" or some such.

 

[HMatsunaga54]

This is common you can return cores in a peace deal apparently Castile peaced out to leave you high and dry, but that fast and it sounds like a bug, try forgoing any alliances and see what happens.

 

[cwg9]

There is a bug where a peace treaty doesn't get a popup.

When England did the peace treaty, they decided to give back the provinces to Morocco, return cores or whatnot. You can disable this in the war screen, where it says "Lead country can alter my provinces" or some such.

Thanks, this explains it! I thought there was some sort of massive bug for a minute there.

 

[wolfing]

Why would you ever want that option? (And why is it on by default?)

 

[Mauer]

Why would you ever want that option? (And why is it on by default?)

Yes, exactly.

 

[Gemberkoekje]

Why would you ever want that option? (And why is it on by default?)

It appearantly works both ways: If you turn it off, you can also never GAIN provinces. I'm not entirely sure about that mechanic, though.

 

[Tom013]

This still seems really suspect to me. In one game I was playing, England and France fought to a standstill at 0% warscore, and England then chose to end the war by returning 5 provinces to Morocco?

Kept me busy for the demo's 28 years as Portugal though, reclaiming my rightful(ish) lands!

 

[TyrannisUmbra]

No, there's definitely something else going on. Other people have reported this saying that they were not in a war at all when it happened.

 

[Gemberkoekje]

No, there's definitely something else going on. Other people have reported this saying that they were not in a war at all when it happened.

In that case, I don't know. It's definetly fishy, if nothing else that you don't get a proper popup or at least a log message.

 

[unmerged(671782)]

Lost Casablanca to Morocco for no reason.

 

[Knab]

No, there's definitely something else going on. Other people have reported this saying that they were not in a war at all when it happened.

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I just got some weird pop-up.
I was allied with Spain but no war occurred, we just suddenly lost the Morroccan provinces we owned.

 

[nikimilky]

I was trying the demo as Portugal, trying out all the new features. I was in an alliance and royal marriage with Castille. I was mainly focused on developing colonies and technology, when Castille called me to war against Morocco (holy war or crusade CB, I believe). I answered the call, and in the moment I clicked and entered the war my two provinces in North Africa, Ceuta and another one, suddenly switched hands to Morocco :blink: They became provinces of Morocco, for no apparent reason, as soon as I joined the war. I had an army statione in Ceuta, and it instantly started to siege the garrison which, until the last day, was MY garrison.

I really don't know what happened. Bug? Or something I missed?

go to: menu -> message settings -> mark EVERYTHING as popup.
needs to be defult, alot of bizared stuff goes there ("YEA I WANT TO KNOW WHEN ONE OF MY PROVINCES IS UNDER ATTACK. THANK YOU").

 

[smellymummy]

It appearantly works both ways: If you turn it off, you can also never GAIN provinces. I'm not entirely sure about that mechanic, though.

lol no kidding, i'd like to see that random post where someone playing a demo suddenly got a province out of the blue thanks to an alliance leader making the deal. of course, the odds are stacked against portugal when england sues for peace vs france, but just saying

 

[ParadogsGamer]

lol no kidding, i'd like to see that random post where someone playing a demo suddenly got a province out of the blue thanks to an alliance leader making the deal. of course, the odds are stacked against portugal when england sues for peace vs france, but just saying

That actually happened to me yesterday. I was playing as the Ottos and Aq Qyunlyu lost a war to the Timurids and I got a core province in the deal. And I wasn't even in the conflict, mind you. So it does work both ways.

I too have been on the receiving end of the stick. As Portugal, I lost Ceuta and Tangiers to Morroco in the Anglo/French war. England is apparently happy to give Portuguese provinces away in order to appease France. So as Portugal, do not ally with England, as long as they have provinces in France.

 

[smellymummy]

That actually happened to me yesterday. I was playing as the Ottos and Aq Qyunlyu lost a war to the Timurids and I got a core province in the deal. And I wasn't even in the conflict, mind you. So it does work both ways.

well i'll be damned, that does sound promising

 

[trcanberra]

Either way it should ask if you accept the deal or not - even if you do get the pop up. I'd be sending my diplomats north to say 'No - you cannot give away all of my African provinces to make a meaningless peace with France even if we are allies!!'.

 

[Meneth]

I've had a similar issue.
I was at peace, just minding my own business. Suddenly two provinces I'd conquered half a decade ago, and had cores on, were reverted to their former owners. There were no rebels in my country, so I have no idea how it happened.

 

[ParadogsGamer]

I've had a similar issue playing as the Hansa.
I was at peace, just minding my own business. Suddenly I lost Holstein and Vorpommern (taken from Denmark and Brandenburg earlier). I wasn't even at war, and both provinces were cored.

How do you play as the Hansa?

 

[unmerged(148491)]

I've had this happen to me a few times now, and it was certainly not always connected to wars. Just... happens - would be very nice if anyone could explain what is actually going on.