Portugal should be renamed Iberia when the lusitanian empire mission is completed

[Duarte]

With the new name change mechanic on the block, I think it would be ideal to add it to portugal both to add the long time requests for an Iberia tag, but also due to the "take that!" nature of the name change, being a mirror of castille and aragon adopting the title "Spain"

 

[Delterius]

No.

 

[Sete]

Yes.

 

[Matihood1]

Aaaand what is your reasoning? Because the "it's Castile formed Spain historically therefore they're the only ones entitled to it" argument has been brought up and debunked so many times I've lost count. It's perfectly fine for Portugal to form Spain in an alternate timeline, in which they're the ones dominating the Iberian peninsula and not Castile. A new tag would be completely redundant

 

[Duarte]

Aaaand what is your reasoning? Because the "it's Castile formed Spain historically therefore they're the only ones entitled to it" argument has been brought up and debunked so many times I've lost count. It's perfectly fine for Portugal to form Spain in an alternate timeline, in which they're the ones dominating the Iberian peninsula and not Castile. A new tag would be completely redundant

I'm not asking for a new tag, just for a name change like what happens with lubeck being renamed to the hansa one they finish one of their missions, maybe I wasn't being clear, but my suggestion was a way to add "Iberia" without actually adding a new tag

 

[Sete]

A new tag would make sense, more sense than a Germany tag in the time frame...
Call it United Kingdom of Portugal and Castille (like in HoI IV with Portugal and Brazil.)

 

[Duarte]

as mentioned a new tag is pointless, since the term "spain" only becomes un-usable by portugal if castille or aragon do it frist, if portugal is the frist to form it then as aluded it would be fine with it being called Spain (the flag not being apropritae is another matter) my suggestion is really for those player palayers who want to conquer the Iberian peninsula but don't want to become spain, for a number of reason (the flag and the name lists being the main ones)

 

[Matihood1]

A new tag would make sense, more sense than a Germany tag in the time frame...
Call it United Kingdom of Portugal and Castille (like in HoI IV with Portugal and Brazil.)

I wouldn't take HoI4 as a good example of how tags should be called...

 

[Sete]

Why not?

 

[Pbhuh]

So what happened in Reality?

Portugal Castille and Aragon.

Portugal and Aragon fought over Castille in the War of the Castillian Succession.

So how likely would a Union of Portugal and Castille be vs Aragon and Castille, cause historically, if Aragon and Castille are together, Spain is 1 ruler away pretty much and Portugal shouldnt be allowed to form Spain.

Then the name, Iberia or Hispania (Spain) or Portugal-Castille.

There isnt really a need for another country tag because the new Renaming System can be used for any appropriate thing.

 

[Sete]

Miguel da Paz, Prince of Portugal and Prince of Asturias (Portuguese: Miguel da Paz de Trastâmara e Avis, Portuguese pronunciation: [mi ɡɛɫ dɐ ˈpaʃ]; Spanish: Miguel de la Paz de Avís y Trastámara, "Michael of Peace") (23 August 1498 – 19 July 1500) was a Portuguese royal prince, son of King Manuel I of Portugal and his first wife, Isabella of Aragon, Princess of Asturias (1470-1498).

He was shortly sworn heir to the various Iberian crowns by the courts of Portugal, Castile and Aragon.

He died young but the possibility was there. If germany can have a tag, a united Iberia under Portugal could have one aswell.

 

[Pbhuh]

Miguel da Paz, Prince of Portugal and Prince of Asturias (Portuguese: Miguel da Paz de Trastâmara e Avis, Portuguese pronunciation: [mi ɡɛɫ dɐ ˈpaʃ]; Spanish: Miguel de la Paz de Avís y Trastámara, "Michael of Peace") (23 August 1498 – 19 July 1500) was a Portuguese royal prince, son of King Manuel I of Portugal and his first wife, Isabella of Aragon, Princess of Asturias (1470-1498).

He was shortly sworn heir to the various Iberian crowns by the courts of Portugal, Castile and Aragon.

He died young but the possibility was there. If germany can have a tag, a united Iberia under Portugal could have one aswell.

Why a need for a tag when a rename or Spain is already appropriate enough. Iberia/Spain is the most likely name.

 

[Matihood1]

Why a need for a tag when a rename or Spain is already appropriate enough. Iberia/Spain is the most likely name.

Because there are no dynamic tag names in this game. A tag can only have one name. The community has been asking for this feature for a long time but we never got it.

 

[Duarte]

Because there are no dynamic tag names in this game. A tag can only have one name. The community has been asking for this feature for a long time but we never got it.

they literally added that feature, it's already used for the kingdom of god decision and the lubeck mission tree, what are yuo on about?

 

[FleetingRain]

Seems fair.

 

[Sete]

Why a need for a tag when a rename or Spain is already appropriate enough. Iberia/Spain is the most likely name.

I do not believe so, and no it's not.

 

[Pbhuh]

Because there are no dynamic tag names in this game. A tag can only have one name. The community has been asking for this feature for a long time but we never got it.

they literally added that feature, it's already used for the kingdom of god decision and the lubeck mission tree, what are yuo on about?

Like he said, they just added it in the last update. All that it cant do is modify the Flag. But Dynamic Names are now there.

I do not believe so, and no it's not.

So come up with a proper name then.

 

[Sete]

Already did. Not my fault you dont like it.

 

[Pbhuh]

Already did. Not my fault you dont like it.

Like I said, PROPER name.

No country in eu4 is United Kingdom of Portugal and Castille

A tag needs to conform to atleast 1 rule:

* Government needs to be allowed to be fluid

So your tag would be Portugal-Castille and generally double names are frowned upon, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth becomes Commonwealth.

Sardinia-Piedmont is the only exception as far as I recall, but there is no good name for it.

There are options for Lusitania, Iberia, Spain etc. singular names, but yea.

 

[Talamare]

Portugal forming Spain seems pretty unrealistic, as in they wouldn't use that name.
It would more likely be called Iberia or Lusitania, or even Portugalia or Galicia.