I'm just saying the distinction between Portugal and France IS now harder to make and they will probably be adjacent in Africa. We don't all have eagle eyes, I'm sorry. At first glance, those two countries look the same to me. Vision is personal but I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one to have that problem.
Well Idk, to me they look different and in the case of green it's harder for me to tell the diference of the other's green colonizers and countries nearby. Like you said vision is personal, and we had both sides testify it. The only thing I can arrive as conclusion from this is thank god colours aren't the only thing you can use to tell a countries apart. You can read their name or click on the province if it's too tiny.
(Btw, for people that advise to take a vision test, wtf is wrong with you?)
I'm a bit confused here, in which part I have insulted/advise someone to take a vision test just now? I merely agreed with his argument and used it, if you really wanted to make Portugal distinct with other countries, it would be purple. I cannot deny it, he made a really good case on it and his arguments have merit to it.
Paradox should aim for the best color distinction and NOT for the "most accurate" color for a country just to please a certain crowd or people from the said country. And red ottoman shares the exact same problem with UK, you know it. Best solutions are: let you choose your color or mod it. Sorry to come out harsh on this but fighting over colors for a country for historical accuracy because it was "monarchist" and not a republic in place of looking for the best game color distribution is what is wrong here, not my post.
Now that's something debatable and I believe the dev's already responded to this, that's not a reasonable standard at all. For all colors to be absolute distinct you would need to be very careful when selecting each and ignore relation to national colors, which is a giant downside as far as immersion is concerned and other problems. And that's no small task, it's a demanding task, considering that Portugal and other colonizers (and potencial colonizers) all have global presence and can border each other. The dev's said themselves.
I would even go so far and say it's a neo impossible task. While we had many IRL maps here where colours were "distinct", they had so many issues. The maps had no personalty nor any immersion, they also quickly fail at their only purpose, not only using a lack of different colours but the moment you would unpaused the game borders would change, making it a horrible scenario. These maps were made with fixed borders in mind, so it was possible to make them.
That standard is not viable, a really bad one, and subjective to any type of personal change. For some certain people some colours are better, for other's aren't. Some are more sensitive to tell blue's apart, other's aren't but can do that with green. Then this is a game from 1836 to 1936, needles to say borders changed a lot in 100 years, so it's hard enough to arrange colours to tell them apart in 1836 start, it's even harder to prepare them for the future years. Now you even have to consider the games wont be like reality and we will have ahistorical outcomes, like spain colonizing africa and end up bordering belgium for example. I can tell them apart but for some it's harder for them. This is a nightmare mission.
So this is something that PDX should not aim as their primary goal. It's better to pick the national colours for certain countries and from there slowly paint the map. Of course I agree they should keep it in mind when selecting colours, which they clearly do keep in mind while trying not to ignore national colours.
Bruh, If red ottos share the same problem with pink UK than I dont know what to tell you. We literally have a in game print of red denmark bordering the British market, and you can tell them apart. So how would a darker red for ottos make it have a problem with the UK? I can only see a potencial problem with the British raj in asia.
This only contributes to my point that it's a impossible task to have the standard be "make every colour the most distinct possible", since green ottos also have problems with other countries nearby.
