Ok peeps... I need EVERY POSSIBLE info on population of different provinces in 1820. The setup of 1720 which we are working upon is outdated for this 
So come on... Hannibal Barca & others
So come on... Hannibal Barca & others
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If at all possible you could change the goods. Like create cocoa, tools, or perhaps opium? Aslo Muhhamed Ali of Egypt reformed the Egyptian economy and introduced cotton in Egypt, could that be an idea? Also what happened after the the American Civil War was that the last country in the World to trade slaves with Africa? I ask because I know Europeans ended slavery earlier...If so would this have an impact on the Slave commodity in Africa, and what would you put in its place? Just a few ideas and thoughts thanks!
Immigrants, throughout the AON there were litterly millions of people who flocked from Europe to America for a better life, freedom from oppresion, and even food (Irish Potatao Famine). I think a few American states would have to increse the base tax a bit also, but what about all that PTI out west? That was all explored by 1820, and also the interior of Africa, Austrailia, Siberia, and South America what about those PTI? Also the slave trade in the Americas before hand also "forcefully" immigrated Africans to the Americas as well. Africans were still people and even though the Slave Trade was mostly over in 1820 (at least in Europe) it still happened and all the free Africans in the Americas...A few opinions, hope it helps.
My suggestion is to use the populations of the Napoleon's Ambition scenario, that's at least what I did in my template. Maybe you could add 5-10% or something.
I don't know about the migration to America (the continent). It was mostly caused by the huge population growth in Europe. My suggestion is that it should be handled with random events.
I don't know about the migration to America (the continent). It was mostly caused by the huge population growth in Europe. My suggestion is that it should be handled with random events.
hehe... it doesnt work so well... the Pops are WAAAAAAAAY off... here is something I dug up....
Cities with Pop of 100,000 in Europe by 1750.
*Dublin??? hard to believe
London
Paris
*Amsterdam
*Lyon
*Venice
Naples
*Palermo (sicily)
Madrid
*Lisbon
*Vienna
Moscow
*Milan
Berlin
Rome
Constantinople
Pop of 100,000 by 1800
St Petersburg
*Hamburg
*Marseille
*Barcelona
*= short of 100,000 in current set up.... oops
I have a list of cities that hit 100,000 by 1850 too... whic we can use as a relative guide if you want... give them like 75,000 or something.
Cities with Pop of 100,000 in Europe by 1750.
*Dublin??? hard to believe
London
Paris
*Amsterdam
*Lyon
*Venice
Naples
*Palermo (sicily)
Madrid
*Lisbon
*Vienna
Moscow
*Milan
Berlin
Rome
Constantinople
Pop of 100,000 by 1800
St Petersburg
*Hamburg
*Marseille
*Barcelona
*= short of 100,000 in current set up.... oops
I have a list of cities that hit 100,000 by 1850 too... whic we can use as a relative guide if you want... give them like 75,000 or something.
THe only cities in N.A. with a pop over 100,000 are correct, New York, Philly, and Boston... the capitol should be in Philly though, unless your going to put washington D.C. in Chesapeake...
Here is a link where you can find country specific populations in Europe
(in most cases 1750 on)
http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Europe/europe.html
(in most cases 1750 on)
http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Europe/europe.html
Ireland Population
1791 4,200,000
1801 5,220,000
1844 8,280,000
1900 4,470,000
The United Kingdom
1801 10,500,900
1821 14,091,700
1844 19,240,000
1900 35,405,900
As you can see there (In Ireland) was over 5 mil people in 1800. Dublin was the largest city...
I can start working on populations if you want. The only thing I know right now is that Naples had some 300,000 already in the 1600s.
However, before I start, I think we need to decide whether the population should reflect the population of the cities or of the provinces as a whole.
However, before I start, I think we need to decide whether the population should reflect the population of the cities or of the provinces as a whole.
Ok... I guess I always saw the population of Ireland as about 15,000 because thats what it is in EU...
as for Washington D.C... you have alexandria in Powhatten, but thats not the same thing. Washington should be the capitol as well...
as for Washington D.C... you have alexandria in Powhatten, but thats not the same thing. Washington should be the capitol as well...
Ok Styrbiorn, just post the pops here... And I'll add them.
I think we do it like it is already --> City pops reflected
I think we do it like it is already --> City pops reflected
Sadly I'll be away for two weeks and I can't help out here until then (didn't know that when I wrote that). However, the army will soon let go of me and I will have more spare time.
I think we shoudl take the pops for the larger cities from what I posted for now... and we can always tweak them later without much effort.
I've already done so in latest updated, and I'm further correcting other pops when I have the time.
Sebago = 1400, should be 10,000
Oswego = 1200, should be 6,000
Adirondak = 1900, should be 5000
Chesepeake = 100,000, should be 30,000
Powhatten = 12,500, should be 25,000
Biloxi = 12,500... should be 25,000
Oswego = 1200, should be 6,000
Adirondak = 1900, should be 5000
Chesepeake = 100,000, should be 30,000
Powhatten = 12,500, should be 25,000
Biloxi = 12,500... should be 25,000