Population (Prov or City?)

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I would much prefer the population display to represent the total population of the province, rather than of the province's capital city. It would "feel" much better to know the true population of your kingdom.

If you don't have the time to research, post a request like you did with additional flags needed. I can't think of a more relaxing voluntary task than digging up the population of langeudoc in 1400, 1600 and 1800!

PS Maybe a little popup of city name could come up when the mouse floats over city icon on map - nice. Maybe tiny diffent coloured/shaped buildings in the city icon could represent bailif, etc. Maybe, maybe . . .

 

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are you sure that its possible to find correct facts about amount of people living in different provinces in eu? i cant imagine how we can find out how many people lived in some african province in 1400.

 

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Actually the reason for the population to reflect the city and not the province is that there are no such figures to get. Note that the districts used for census changed over time and rarely you get anything good that is not about cities. Even when looking at France where so much good research has been done on demographics.

/Greven

 

[BiB]

U can get some distorted results though that way. Flanders is a good example in EU I. It starts with 150K inhabitants in Antwerpen. Now Antwerpen did not have so much inhabitants however Flanders was such an urbanised area that there should be so much city dwellers. There are other provinces who only have the lone big city, there are provinces which don't really have a big city but a very large rural pop and there are provicnes with loads of medium sized cities.

Then there's of xure also the growth rate to consider. In EU I there is one system that goes for every province which hjardly is realistic Population increases hardly went linear Cities also didn't grow out of themselves. If they grew it was because of immigration.

That lnear system also makes xure it are always the same cities who are the largest. The biggest grow faster and faster. Contrary to that certain key cities multiplied their population during periods and more than once at that while others stagnated. London in 1419 and London in 1820 is somewhat hard to achieve with that linear system

Certain key places like very important COTs like Amsterdam grew enormously quickly at their height. Same goes for administrative centers like Vienna for example when the Habsburg were strong. Others cities then again hardly grew at all, were past their prime or stopped being attractive.

Population of a city also jusy has a marginal influence on income. Just the production income. It should be somewhat more influential.

 

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Thanks for reply, great game.

I concede either way has problems, but for myself I would prefer a (less accurate) province pop. to a (more accurate) city pop. It just seems easier to picture what is happening in the province, you'll probably find newer players agreeing more on this point.

I agree with BiB that current method has inherent inaccuracy anyway (eg Paris prod/pop), but as far as creating a population model, it probably isn't worth it. I'd just have a series of manual corrections occur on certain dates, eg +100,000 pop to London every 50th year, +100,000 pop to Flanders in 1500 (or whatever).

 

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I never noticed this, but the percentage rate next to the pop seems to not be the monthly/yearly growth at all... I just did the math today.

 

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Originally posted by Pythagoras
I never noticed this, but the percentage rate next to the pop seems to not be the monthly/yearly growth at all... I just did the math today.

The % is the growth in a ten-year period.

 

[Agelastus]

Having the population be for the entire province seems an eminently sensible change, as I've always felt it seems a little strange to so obviously be able to raise more men of military age from the province than apparently live there, even in many European provinces. It just feels odd while playing.

 

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??????? ehh....