Pop Ethics Rework in 1.5 - Concerned about one of Wiz's statements

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i dont doubt it was taken into consideration, what i doubt is the ability to put it into the game while keeping the game "light" on using processing power and RAM
just imagine the lategame lag when the game starts making calculations with 50 or so new variables per empire on a 600+ star map
 

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How are those examples of good racial/ethnic/religious diversity?
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Perhaps because they have diverse racial/ethnic/religious groups that make up parts of their population?
 
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I can see this thread teetering on the bring of unpleasant topics.

So keep it on track with discussion of Stellaris and the ethics.

Keep specific IRL comparisons out of this and remember that offensive assertions can land you in hot water.

Keep the thread on track please.
 

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A pop is not a single guy. It is a undetermined mass of people. For humans I would guess at one pop being around 0.5 billion people. Or 500,000,000 people (500 million).
Personal experiences do not mater on that scale. Statistics does. And the statistics are pretty clear: Proximity to foreign people lessens Xenophobia towards those people.* What causes Xenophobia is not being subject to those people during your formative years.

*Technically you would have to track that for each species and each culture, but that would be way too much work for a game.

Fear of Terrorism or Criminals is not a form of Xenophobia. Xenophobia is if you start thinking "this one person is bad. So all the people remotely similar are as bad, until prooven innocent."
Xenophiliacs will not tollerate terrorism or criminals. It is just that they have to make certain that the Xenophobes with ther absolutist "all are bad" stuff do not control the discussion.
 
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We have established that proximity of different ethno-linguistic groups or religious sects to each other can result in conflict or harmony, but when dealing with such large numbers, we have to err on the side of statistics, not personal experiences. Where I live, people who have friends and family members of different backgrounds are far less likely to be xenophobic. According to others, it's not true of other areas.

I suspect that as time goes on, the devs will create more complex conditions and dynamic events that affect population ethics.