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Jonni_g_n

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I've been playing CK2 a while, and achievement hunting is a really fun thing to do, and you do feel satisfaction upon completion. Kingdom of David was fun, as were the UK ones and Caliphate strikes back. In fact EU4 has some excellent ones such as the Sweden is not Overpowered (a really fun playthrough).

Recently I feel the achievements leave a lot to be desired.

Look at the list. There is a lot of very gamey nonsense in there. I tried to do the 7 Deuls one, about 3 times. You would never be able to get that achievement in an ironman game just playing normally. It wouldn't be possible. It is basically load a game and hope for events to fire and not to die. (I feel a lot of the ones brought in by WoL were similar o this and basically involved boycotting certain features at the expense of targeting an achievement.

I looked through again at the amount of daft India religion achievements/Norse based achievements. (l like the collect 1000g in one raiding trip, because this is beneficial to the realm and isn't basically wasting a few hours on a playthrough you will retire from). Look at Viking Ummah....Incredibly easy, but at the same time it would only really happen if you played through in a Gamey way intending for it to fire then ended the game.


I'm sorry for complaining, because I do love the game and the developers I very much respect, especially given the fact that one of their team will almost certainly read this, but can we have some decent achievements please? Stuff like reconquista starting as Asturias, or Ireland conquering England, or anything which involves playing as a Slav.

I have tried to do the Zoroastrian achievement about a dozen times, each time I fail I laugh, because I played through and it was very fun playing the game and really seeing how close I could get (This is one I refuse to be 'gamey' with) , whilst 'slander 20 people' I did on various office lunch hours with my friend and commented the whole way through that we were just doing it for the sake of it (I get VERY long lunch hours, on a desk facing the door ;).

Anyway could we request the next set of steam achievements be more about gaming and less about being gamy please?

P.S Although reapers due is infuriating, the next mechanics and events are very, very cool. Thanks a bunch :)
P.P.S - I understand you also make achievements to try to highlight the new mechanics, and that is cool. But as a person who likes challenges, it would be nice to do something one Ironman mode that involves one of the areas that are literally ignored by achievements yet still look fun.
 
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Are you familiar with the Half-Life 2 achievement where you take a garden gnome with you through the entire game?
 
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Lol. I have the f#^$ing penguin achievement from Deus Ex. Still there wasn't such a percentage of them was there?

Edit:

Also that's note iron-man, so can still decide to muck around half way through a game and it's still doable.
 

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I agree.

I've never really thought that the simple ones like "Build a Hospital" or "You Owe Me" were worth it. What is the point of having achievements that are based on what will become common occurrence.

You're eventually going to owe someone a favor, and build a hospital therefore why is it compelling to have an achievement for basic game operations that everyone is eventually going to do.

Small achievements add nothing imo, and don't even need to be used to introduce new features.
 
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No, I suppose not, I'm just saying that many games have ridiculous achievements that you would only achieve if you were trying to achieve them.
 

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Yeah I know, but if you compare these to EU4 ones, the EU4 ones are usually to do with challenging you to do something pretty bloody difficult and using imagination. Whilst some are incredibly difficult, you can't say the Sons of Carthage one is gamey. That is the sort of achievement CK2 should have more of. Really pushing player to limit. Even the times I fail during these harder more strategically paced achievements I really enjoy my playhtough as I learn the mechanics

The longer, more drawn out achievements that allow us to see the great writing of the less common events which we wouldn't normally see.
 

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I have tried to do the Zoroastrian achievement about a dozen times, each time I fail I laugh, because I played through and it was very fun playing the game and really seeing how close I could get (This is one I refuse to be 'gamey' with) , (...)
By "gamey", do you mean expanding as a Sunni and then converting your heir to Zoroastrian? That's how I did it :rolleyes:
 
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Legitimate concerns but I did play a campaign as the Kingdom of Mauretania as Hæsteinn and eventually converted to Islam gaining Viking Ummah. Just because you can cheat your way to an achievement doesn't mean they're not worth doing. Game it and spoil it for yourself, knock yourself out, but If you're collecting achievements to fill a steam profile you're missing the point.

Self control is everything.