Political slider.

[unmerged(23502)]

Is there any chance that suggested changes to the political sliders will be taken into consideration by Paradox?

If so I think it would be good to replace the drafted army slider, which imo makes little to no sense at all, with a "Political control over army" slider. That is an important aspect of the war imo, and it can also be used to cripple the USSR in a way that feel more realistic than for example giving them lousy tech teams.

 

[markpalm1]

I think it would be good to replace the drafted army slider, which imo makes little to no sense at all, with a "Political control over army" slider. That is an important aspect of the war imo, and it can also be used to cripple the USSR in a way that feel more realistic than for example giving them lousy tech teams.

I'm not sure what paradox was thinking with the draft/standing army - maybe a small professional army vs. a reserve mobilization system. Only makes sense pre-war, after fighting starts draft is universal.

As for political control, Stalin was far less harmful to his army than Hitler was to his. Political control within Soviet units could be simulated by having the russian AI attack no matter what the odds in 1941

 

[unmerged(23502)]

As for political control, Stalin was far less harmful to his army than Hitler was to his. Political control within Soviet units could be simulated by having the russian AI attack no matter what the odds in 1941

While Stalin personally made fewer fatal errors than Hitler did the soviet army still had to cope with the commisars, a major problem at least in the begining of the war.

I was thinking more of human Soviet player than the AI.

 

[markpalm1]

While Stalin personally made fewer fatal errors than Hitler did the soviet army still had to cope with the commisars, a major problem at least in the begining of the war.

I was thinking more of human Soviet player than the AI.

Maybe they could give Soviet units an org penalty when outside the national boundries, to simulate their uncouth and undisciplined behavior when in proximity to unprotected foreign civilians.

And the doctrines? They really don't need money to research, just a few visionary military guys. You should accumulate hours of combat experience just like money and be able to spend those on doctrines. Once you have a doctrine everyone else gets a blueprint for free, cause when something works others imitate.

With the Soviets, they didn't have much previous recent combat experience in 1941 and it showed. With their closed society, it took them a long time to learn their lessons. Their tech teams seem stupid because they were always afraid of getting arrested.

 

[bbasgen]

...to simulate their uncouth and undisciplined behavior when in proximity to unprotected foreign civilians.

I'm thankful Paradox stays out of these politics. You both are being overly romantic about the past; as if all other foreign soldiers were fine, but those evil Soviets were brutal. Nonsense!

With their closed society, it took them a long time to learn their lessons.

The Nazi's had a closed society, yet had the best military tactics on the planet. Further, the people who beat them were the Soviets. I suppose you think the Soviets won because the weather and German mistakes, and yet the Allies won *two years later* against Germany because the German's thier were tougher, more entrenched, and smarter, making the Allies all the more 'brilliant, decisive, agressive', etc, etc.

 

[markpalm1]

I'm thankful Paradox stays out of these politics. You both are being overly romantic about the past; as if all other foreign soldiers were fine, but those evil Soviets were brutal. Nonsense!

My only concern was how these antics had an effect on military performance, which in the case of the red army was to render certain units less fit for combat.

The Nazi's had a closed society, yet had the best military tactics on the planet. Further, the people who beat them were the Soviets.

I'm not sure what paradox means by closed and open, but historically the axis countries were the most open to innovative ideas which challenged conventional wisdom and morality. But, to their credit, the comintern countries were able to loosen up enough to avert defeat.