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So...As the Commonwealth some of the electors are voting for me somehow and it looks like I'm gonna be the Emperor no matter what. I stayed Catholic, but I'd rather join the Protestant League. What will happen if I do? I mean... the war will be about changing primary religion of the HRE. If I join the Protestant League before they elect me and then I become the Emperor... will I get kicked out or what?
 

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wait... they cant elect you :D
As I know while protestant league forming a new emperor cannot be elected. old emperor will be allways elected.
so in this case you will stay at protestant league.

also you can allways insult electors.

I think reason is to not swap catholic leader with someone not willing to be
 

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If you switch to protestantism when you are an Emperor you will immediately lose it to someone who is catholic.
When you switch before you got elected then you cannot be elected.
The only exception is when you are Emperor and you have passed (i am not sure) 5th reform and imperial throne is hereditary.
As a protestant nation you can not only join protestant League but became its leader.
Great way to benefit from it is to switch to protestantism, be sure to have no truce with current Emperor and when leagues form immediately join them (as the biggest protestant nation in it you will be the leader) and declare war on the Emperor. Its important to do it asap as each day more and more countries will join it. If you are fast enough you can fight only Emperor and his allies.
 

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I did insult them but I'm such a good guy that they didn't even care :D They hate each other in the HRE and I'm the only one who haven't done much bad in this area.

"The Protestant League is created and headed by the first newly converted Elector, and the Catholic League will begin with the current Emperor at the head. Any subsequently elected emperor will automatically assume leadership of the Catholic league, even if they had previously been neutral or part of the Protestant League"

Found it on parodoxwikis. Guess I'm screwed unless I convert myself to Protestant. There is only 6 nations in Catholic League right now and the only one strong enough to do anything is France - the current Emperor. I'm not sure what will happend if they lose Emperorship.
 

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Protestant electors often vote for someone ridiculous before the league wars, because obviously they hate the emperor. I've seen Cyprus and even Venice become the Emperor.
 

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Protestant electors often vote for someone ridiculous before the league wars, because obviously they hate the emperor. I've seen Cyprus and even Venice become the Emperor.
you sure? I never saw an emperor swap while league war about to happen :D
because come to think of it france can become emperor like this unwillingly :D since he is joining protestant league a lot as catholic protestant electors gonna like him more and vote him XD
 

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Yeah the restriction is only during the war. Before the war actually starts, any valid country can become emperor via normal election. I've seen it happen to countries in the protestant league. It's pretty funny cause it often totally screws up alliances and people's opinions of each other
 

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Yeah the restriction is only during the war. Before the war actually starts, any valid country can become emperor via normal election. I've seen it happen to countries in the protestant league. It's pretty funny cause it often totally screws up alliances and people's opinions of each other
thats so stupid! :D This means this scernio can happen
1)Austria emperor leads catholic league
2)France joins protestant league to crush autria and take his cores back from HRE
3)All protestant electors fall in love for france and vote for him since they hate austria
4)France becomes emperor
5)Now since france is new catholic leader electors hate him
6)Austria joins protestant side to crush france
aaand you can see where this is going :D
 

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The Catholic League doesn't stand a chance in my scenario. So I'll just wait hoping that the war starts before the current Emperor dies or I convert and join Protestant League. France's ruler is 50 right now, so he could die any minute :/ Guess I just convert. I will just lose prestige without any rebels becasue I'm really tolerant :)
 

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The Catholic League doesn't stand a chance in my scenario. So I'll just wait hoping that the war starts before the current Emperor dies or I convert and join Protestant League. France's ruler is 50 right now, so he could die any minute :/ Guess I just convert. I will just lose prestige without any rebels becasue I'm really tolerant :)
you can do someting ... else actually
become emperor let war fire
and then accept protestant as dominant religion in hre :D

Note: depanding on protestant leader demands can change. if its someone like denmark or sweden he may want your land too
 

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thats so stupid! :D This means this scernio can happen
1)Austria emperor leads catholic league
2)France joins protestant league to crush autria and take his cores back from HRE
3)All protestant electors fall in love for france and vote for him since they hate austria
4)France becomes emperor
5)Now since france is new catholic leader electors hate him
6)Austria joins protestant side to crush france
aaand you can see where this is going :D
that happens a lot, the electors choosing new emperor after new emperor at least
 

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that happens a lot, the electors choosing new emperor after new emperor at least

Yup this is a pretty common occurrence and it's odd. Frequently when I'm playing France I get elected after the leagues form because the Protestants now hate Austria and I'm the major anti-Austria force in Europe and have high dip rep and probably been cozying up to them as well. So then I become Emperor and the very people who elected me now hate me because I'm Emperor and therefore leader of the Catholic League. It's stupid. It does, however, give me the chance to conquer HRE land with impunity. Once I managed to keep it and then win the league war which left only 3 electors. I promptly annexed them all and never made any more which makes it hereditary :)
 

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Yup this is a pretty common occurrence and it's odd. Frequently when I'm playing France I get elected after the leagues form because the Protestants now hate Austria and I'm the major anti-Austria force in Europe and have high dip rep and probably been cozying up to them as well. So then I become Emperor and the very people who elected me now hate me because I'm Emperor and therefore leader of the Catholic League. It's stupid. It does, however, give me the chance to conquer HRE land with impunity. Once I managed to keep it and then win the league war which left only 3 electors. I promptly annexed them all and never made any more which makes it hereditary :)
better strategy: let 1 elector survive and let him vote someone else. MOMENT YOUR KING DIE declare him and new emperor occupy their capital and destroy hre
 

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Yup this is a pretty common occurrence and it's odd. Frequently when I'm playing France I get elected after the leagues form because the Protestants now hate Austria and I'm the major anti-Austria force in Europe and have high dip rep and probably been cozying up to them as well. So then I become Emperor and the very people who elected me now hate me because I'm Emperor and therefore leader of the Catholic League. It's stupid. It does, however, give me the chance to conquer HRE land with impunity. Once I managed to keep it and then win the league war which left only 3 electors. I promptly annexed them all and never made any more which makes it hereditary :)
Thats so fun, like Richelieu's wet dream. I once spent nearly 20 years as the HRE and all that time played the Germans against each other for the sole benefit of France.
 

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better strategy: let 1 elector survive and let him vote someone else. MOMENT YOUR KING DIE declare him and new emperor occupy their capital and destroy hre

Why would you do that when you can instead keep the empire and pass a few reforms for some nice bonuses? There don't actually need to be any Princes for there to be an HRE.