Poland - the ultimate adventure?

[Txini]

Originally posted by webbrave
huh???? Ever heard of Alexander Nevsky?

Yep, my aunt's dog is named after him

btw he was Prince of Kiev, Vladimir and Novgorod, think the second one by succession, the third in tribute and the first by election, shall be funny to play that strange inheritable russian principalities, lots of possibilities

 

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Originally posted by Txini
Yep, my aunt's dog is named after him

btw he was Prince of Kiev, Vladimir and Novgorod, think the second one by succession, the third in tribute and the first by election, shall be funny to play that strange inheritable russian principalities, lots of possibilities

As far as I know, the Russian lateral system of high middle ages is not in the game and Russian principalities all have dynasties akin to the West European ones. This is pretty bizarre, but better than not having Russia at all.

 

[Demetrios]

Originally posted by webbrave
As far as I know, the Russian lateral system of high middle ages is not in the game and Russian principalities all have dynasties akin to the West European ones. This is pretty bizarre, but better than not having Russia at all.

Considering who is designing the game, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Russian lateral succesion put in...

 

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Perhaps there are differant forms of "Feudal Law" which can be implimented for your dynasty. For instance "Laternal Succession", or the French's policy of only allowing the male line to inherit the throne, and so so forth. Each of the differant systems have distinct bennifits and detractions and it would be possible to change them, but only with a massive hit to stability and/or piety?

 

[Faeelin]

Originally posted by webbrave
Who can hold a candle to that? Various Russian principalities match your description as well. Here you have: pagans, Muslims, Teutonic knights, Mongols (more than a "piece"), Byzantines, Scandinavians... Relations with both the East and the West.

No need to have two Russias. I suggest: scrap Poland

How about Byzantium? Saracens, Normans, Venetians, Genoans, Franks, Egyptians, Bulgars, Slavs, rebels, Mongols, Turks....

And if that's enot enough, dividing christendom in two.

 

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by Jaron
who did poland pay tribute to

everyone?

 

[Txini]

Originally posted by Faeelin
How about Byzantium? Saracens, Normans, Venetians, Genoans, Franks, Egyptians, Bulgars, Slavs, rebels, Mongols, Turks....

And if that's enot enough, dividing christendom in two.

you forgot catalans

 

[Deaghaidh]

Bah! Irish principalites all the way! You've got other Irish principalities, the Norse (still kicking around in the cities, though tributary), the Normans, the Scots, the Welsh, and of course your own clan

 

[Wulfram]

If the Byzantines maintain their starting territories, they'll also get to deal with a Mongol invasion. Lucky them.

Originally posted by Txini
you forgot catalans

They probably come under Franks.

 

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Demetrios
Considering who is designing the game, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Russian lateral succesion put in...

I may be wrong here, but Polish principalities of the era of feudal disintegration (after 1138) had something similar to lateral succesion, which only with time developped into "normal" feudal mini dynasties (some of them survived unification of Poland in 1320).

 

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Originally posted by Martinus
I may be wrong here, but Polish principalities of the era of feudal disintegration (after 1138) had something similar to lateral succesion, which only with time developped into "normal" feudal mini dynasties (some of them survived unification of Poland in 1320).

You are not wrong . Krzywousty adopted the system he knew that was in use in Kiev. It was broken after election of Kazimierz Sprawiedliwy.

I'm realy courious whether polish feudalism will be in (no feudal rules of vassals being vassals of the other vassals who were vassals of... for example). Everyone was a vassal of the King or Duke.

 

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Originally posted by Fireblade
everyone?

Only Emperor of HRE. And only sometimes (973-1000, 1031-1060, 1157-? Different enddates for different principalities but mostly ended before the end of 13th cen). Small accident with tribute from Silesia paid to Bohemia in 1040's. But it was forced by Emperor too .

 

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Originally posted by Deaghaidh
Bah! Irish principalites all the way! You've got other Irish principalities, the Norse (still kicking around in the cities, though tributary), the Normans, the Scots, the Welsh, and of course your own clan

Oh, you can bet I am SO ready to unite Ireland under my benevolent rule I wonder what the clans to choose from will be?