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their flags all look the same, they're big and they're all next to each other. for the life of it I can't tell their flags apart.

Has anyone made alternative flags for any of the three countries? I searched all flag&shield sites but those three countries don't seem to be very popular among graphics modders.

This is what Flags of the World says about Lithuania.
Through King Jogiella's decree, a white "Vytis" (mounted knight) placed in to a red field would henceforth become the flag of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Two small distinctions were to be noted. While both the Jogiellian and Kestutian royal households would use the same "Vytis" as their coat-of-arms, on the Jogiellian coat-of-arms, the shield on the "Vytis" contained the Apostolic cross and on the Kestutian coat-of-arms, the shield on the "Vytis" contained the "towers of Gediminas". The "Vytis" flag is also described by various chroniclers of the Tannenberg battle of 1410. They were Grand Duke Vytautis'es personal flag.
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This is the modern-day Presidential flag. If nothing else it could be adopted as a pseudo-historic flag merely for the sake of being able to tell all those russian, polish and Lithuanian armies apart. :(

And this is a Polish banner used in the 16th century...
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prawdopodobnie - POLSKA BANDERA z XVI w. Najstarszy zachowany wizerunek polskiej bandery - na podstawie obrazu "Okrêt Koœcio³a" (koniec XVI w.) Nie wiadomo czy wizerunek oparty jest na rzeczywistoœci, czy powsta³ w wyobraŸni malarza, choæ z ca³¹ pewnoœci¹ istnia³a w drugiej po³owie XVI wieku polska bandera i widnia³ na niej Orze³ Bia³y (mo¿liwe, ¿e bandera nie mia³a nigdy bia³ego pola - zobacz: ni¿ej).
I have no idea what this means but it was written under the flag on a Polish flag site :confused:
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This is the banner of the Polish king Vladislav Jagiello (1386-1434), under which he defeated the Knights of the German Order. His later successor Kazimier IV (1447-1492) used a very similar banner. Later kings used other designs, some of them featuring the old coat of arms on a white and red background... this or the one above would at least be distinguishable from the Lithuanian and Muscovian flags.
 

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Actually this flag is the flag of 1517, found here

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And this flag is from the 16th century

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I can't see why you think that this flag look like Lithuania or Muscowy.

For Lithuania and Muscowy, in the next update of GUFSM Muscowy and Lithuania will look more something like this. Both shield and flag

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The flags above don't look like the Lithuanian flag, what I meant is that the flags used in the game are hard to tell apart. They're so small all you see is a white thing on a red field. Poland, Lithuania and Muscovy are all like that. So if someone could modify Poland's and perhaps Lithuiania's and Muscovy's in-game flag (not the shield), maybe by adding a white field like to the Polish flag, that would make it easier to tell them apart. It would not even be ahistorical.

Especially the flags on the province castle sprites are a pain.
 

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Okay this thread seems dead so I'll just ask...

Could someone make a flag animation for this banner? I'd like to use it in place of the normal Polish banner. (Which in the game is hard to tell apart from the Lithuanian and Muscovian banner.)

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