Poland-Lithuania cannot into DD?

[ABookshelf]

Can't expect them to give a DD to every country, even with DDs given to multiple countries. The game is coming out soon anyway so I don't think anything is really "entitled" to a DLC at this point.

For instance, the African countries like Swahili and Mali have not received a DD yet. If we were going to see another country-focused DD, I'd rather see a DD about them than a DD about PLC. I think most players will agree with me here.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

Can't expect them to give a DD to every country, even with DDs given to multiple countries. The game is coming out soon anyway so I don't think anything is really "entitled" to a DLC at this point.

For instance, the African countries like Swahili and Mali have not received a DD yet. If we were going to see another country-focused DD, I'd rather see a DD about them than a DD about PLC. I think most players will agree with me here.

Why do those African nations deserve a DD more than PLC?

 

[ABookshelf]

Why do those African nations deserve a DD more than PLC?

Because this is a region that has received little attention in not only the DDs, but in the entire EU series. If DDs are here to reveal information about the game then the most information to be revealed is in the places we have the least.

So let me ask you why do the Africans not deserve a DD as much as PLC?

 

[Quivis]

So let me ask you why do the Africans not deserve a DD as much as PLC?

For instance, PLC is the only tier 2 country without DD?

 

[ABookshelf]

For instance, PLC is the only tier 2 country without DD?

so?

Actually that's an argument why they SHOULDN'T get a DD...we already know Paradox is going to have given them attention.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

so?

Actually that's an argument why they SHOULDN'T get a DD...we already know Paradox is going to have given them attention.

And perhaps we'd like to see what attention has been given. It's likely that they did almost nothing for Mali/Swahili(given the Aztec preview), a DD about them wouldn't really be useful.

Also, has Novgorod had a DD? I know there was a Russian one, but Aragon got its own DD separate from Spain, and Novgorod is a tiered nation.

 

[ABookshelf]

I think a DD for the African countries would be very enlightening. If you'd rather see a PLC DD then thats fine, none of it really matters this close to release. I'm just saying the OP is clamoring for a PLC DD when we don't even have an African DD which more players would rather see anyway.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

Next DD : Poland, Lithuania and Novgorod?

Which would be actualy good, as poland and novgorod, which both were countries not ruled by tatars, were having simmiliar system of rule(elective king/prince, nobility ruled - thou novgorod had more emphasis on trade). Novgorod was real heir to russian princedoms, unlike muscowy, who took the tatar customs of ruling.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

I think a DD for the African countries would be very enlightening. If you'd rather see a PLC DD then thats fine, none of it really matters this close to release. I'm just saying the OP is clamoring for a PLC DD when we don't even have an African DD which more players would rather see anyway.

I'm not sure "more players" want an Africa DD than a Poland DD. It seems you're the only one so far. Myself, I'd like to see both(with 3 left, I think it should be Pol/Lit/Hun, Byz/Nov, and ROTW, or something similar, but ROTW DD is very unlikely)

 

[ABookshelf]

I'm not sure "more players" want an Africa DD than a Poland DD. It seems you're the only one so far. Myself, I'd like to see both(with 3 left, I think it should be Pol/Lit/Hun, Byz/Nov, and ROTW, or something similar, but ROTW DD is very unlikely)

If you ask people who visit this forum regularly then yes more people would prefer a PLC DD, but they're not the only ones who follow the DDs. If you were to ask the entire player-pool (most players never even come to this forum) you'll find more interest in the African nations.

Besides this forum is known to have a heavy Eastern-European bias so you can't really gauge the collective interests of players overall based on this forum.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

I'm not sure "more players" want an Africa DD than a Poland DD. It seems you're the only one so far. Myself, I'd like to see both(with 3 left, I think it should be Pol/Lit/Hun, Byz/Nov, and ROTW, or something similar, but ROTW DD is very unlikely)

Totaly agreed here. Realisticly, who cares about africa? i doubt more than 1% of players will play africa, and that more than 10% of those who do, will play it to the endgame(aspecialy as propably 80% of african games will end in player playing it, being annexed or killed(and ragequit), by european powers).

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

If you ask people who visit this forum regularly then yes more people would prefer a PLC DD, but they're not the only ones who follow the DDs. If you were to ask the entire player-pool (most players never even come to this forum) you'll find more interest in the African nations.

Do you have any evidence for that assertion?

 

[unmerged(584823)]

If you ask people who visit this forum regularly then yes more people would prefer a PLC DD, but they're not the only ones who follow the DDs. If you were to ask the entire player-pool (most players never even come to this forum) you'll find more interest in the African nations.

Personnally, I prefer Polish history to African one, but, the fact is I know more of polish history (and so, I can guess how it will be displayed in game), and I know almost nothing of African one.

Soooo, I would be more interesting in African one, because we almost
have no info about it while Europe almost monopolized the DD (which seems normal, the game is named EU).

But, you know; I'm sure we'll have a Poland DD, no need to worry.

 

[ABookshelf]

Do you have any evidence for that assertion?

I think the burden of proof is on you to prove that more players overall want to see a Poland DD, as you're accusing me of being incorrect you must have some basis for that accusation.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

Do you have any evidence for that assertion?

He doesn't, he just sucked this out of his own finger then spit this into this forum.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

I think the burden of proof is on you to prove that more players overall want to see a Poland DD, as you're accusing me of being incorrect you must have some basis for that accusation.

No...the burden of proof is on the person who makes the original claim, not the one who is skeptical of that claim.

 

[ABookshelf]

He doesn't, he just sucked this out of his own finger then spit this into this forum.

Well you're on probation so I'm guessing that means the moderators think I shouldn't pay you any mind so I won't.

No...the burden of proof is on the person who makes the original claim, not the one who is skeptical of that claim.

Completely disagree with this. Anyway, I don't think it's necessary to get into an irrelevant argument of your facts vs. my facts as this topic is already much longer than it should be. I trust Paradox has given appropriate attention to all countries and in a month none of this "WHY DOESN'T MY COUNTRY HAVE A DD" nonsense won't matter anymore (not that it matters now...most of us have already preordered the game and have no intention of cancelling) so there's no reason for us to waste our time debating it.

 

[unmerged(612669)]

Well you're on probation so I'm guessing that means the moderators think I shouldn't pay you any mind so I won't.



Completely disagree with this. Anyway, I don't think it's necessary to get into an irrelevant argument of your facts vs. my facts as this topic is already much longer than it should be. I trust Paradox has given appropriate attention to all countries and in a month none of this "WHY DOESN'T MY COUNTRY HAVE A DD" nonsense won't matter anymore (not that it matters now...most of us have already preordered the game and have no intention of cancelling) so there's no reason for us to waste our time debating it.

Africa has a very high tendency of getting annexed and lacks any unique features so there just isn't anything to show.

Now a dlc is something other then a DD; but with a DD there should be something to say; and according to the tier list there isn't anything to say about Africa; and if EU3 is anything to go by it won't be very fun to play as an African power either.

 

[Delta107]

I'm also surprised there has been no word about Poland. I bet Poland-Lithuania mechanics are DLC material.

 

[pedrito_elcabra]

Considering Poland's importance during the timeframe I'm surprised to see no DD yet.

On the other hand, anything that makes fanatic patriots winge is a welcome entertainment.