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Without any doubt whatsoever, yes :)
 

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Why shouldn't it? This is a historical game.:)
 

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jorian said:
umm...I don't get the question or the answer, can please someone translate?
For once we agree! Let's rejoice!
 

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jorian said:
umm...I don't get the question or the answer, can please someone translate?
I think he wants to know what Poland-Lithuania will look like in EUIII. Something we won't know untill a pic of it is released.
 

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jorian said:
umm...I don't get the question or the answer, can please someone translate?

I think he asks if there will be a Poland-Lithuania in EU3? :confused:
 

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yourworstnightm said:
There won't. Poland will be PTI!!!

Not meaning to sound stupid but..what's PTI?
 

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Garuda said:
Not meaning to sound stupid but..what's PTI?

Permanent Terra Incognita (= not on the map, just a blank hole)
 

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I think the question is not whether such union will be included in the game - it surely will - but how it will look like. Poland will not go PTI, even considering the goverment we have : ).

The thing is: to what extend and to what accuracy will the history of Poland be implemented? Will it show what a multi-cultured society Poland used to be - and still considered itself to be the defender of scristianity in the east? How many historical events will appear? Will there be much of polish thinkers, philosophers and being-quite-smart-guys? And finally: will it show the mechanisms that led Poland to erode from the map of Europe for 123 years?
And, last but not least, will it be fun to play ; )

As for me, I'm looking forward to play Poland as soon as I get my hand on EUIII. : )
 

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Meehow said:
The thing is: to what extend and to what accuracy will the history of Poland be implemented? Will it show what a multi-cultured society Poland used to be - and still considered itself to be the defender of scristianity in the east? How many historical events will appear? Will there be much of polish thinkers, philosophers and being-quite-smart-guys? And finally: will it show the mechanisms that led Poland to erode from the map of Europe for 123 years?
And, last but not least, will it be fun to play ; )
I'm hoping that the event coders for EU3 will take a page from the AGCEEP book and code similar to how they did it - it accurately portrays what occured in Poland from 1420 onwards.
The differing types of monarchy shown in the Swedish screenshot at least suggests that the "Noble's Monarchy" of the Commonwealth will be represented.
I am very interested in Polish history (in fact, I just finished watching With Fire and Sword) and I hope that the game accurately codes the build up of the noble power and the union of Poland-Lithuania but also takes into account the fact that the terrible fate of the union could have been avoided. Maybe you'll even get to choose who is elected to the throne - the similarities to CK suggest that will be possible.
 

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mmatadore said:
How there will be look Poland-Lithunia in EUIII?? (union, teritories, position in europe etc.)

We really do not know anything about Poland-Lithunia in EUIII, although it is safe to bet it will be in the game. :) Until you see it in an exact confirming sentance from Johan or Susana, it is rampant speculation and should not be trusted. :)
 

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My take is, since we're playing with hindsight, we should be able to avvert our countries historical past. :D

Since we'll know what decisions to make and not make. I do want a game focussing on history, but there needs to be a certain open endedness in it too, right? I mean if I want to watch the history of poland i'll read a text book. I'd like to see a game that, although will try and keep the historical line going throughout, that its also as dynamic as can be allowed.
 

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The Hidden said:
My take is, since we're playing with hindsight, we should be able to avvert our countries historical past. :D

Since we'll know what decisions to make and not make. I do want a game focussing on history, but there needs to be a certain open endedness in it too, right? I mean if I want to watch the history of poland i'll read a text book. I'd like to see a game that, although will try and keep the historical line going throughout, that its also as dynamic as can be allowed.

Hi,

I sincerely hope that turning Poland away from the historical path will not be as easy as in AGCEEP...
It should be doable, but almost impossible... Just like making the Spanish aware of true reasons for inflation and starting massive industrialization abt 1530...

Regards, Oldtimer
 

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OLDTIMER said:
Hi,

I sincerely hope that turning Poland away from the historical path will not be as easy as in AGCEEP...
It should be doable, but almost impossible... Just like making the Spanish aware of true reasons for inflation and starting massive industrialization abt 1530...

Regards, Oldtimer

My hop is the contrary that there shouldnt be to many historical events. They never make sense after awhile anyway. Futhermore theyre only fun the first time, then you expext them and prepare for them making it more like work and les like fun. Once you get the hait of reading them in advance most of the fun in the game is over. That is why the circumstance driven events in CK is so superior.
Not saying the events are but the triggers.
 

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labalag said:
Permanent Terra Incognita (= not on the map, just a blank hole)

Thanks.