Pointing out STUPIDITY.

[Panther]

Hi, as a much as i love your games, especially HoI series, i have to say i am deeply disappointed that even now after such length of time and so many patches and even paid, i guess you could call them paid content, you still have some things in this game that are UNBELIEVABLY STUPID.
Here i will name two, just because i find these to be most outrageous and i hope foe a fast fix of these.
1)Why, WHY are generals moving divisions from one side of front to other LEAVING provinces with no divisions?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
There is no NO REASON FOR THAT WHAT SO EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You lose entrenchment, you decrease division number that is actually defending fronts and worst of all you are leaving unprotected provinces. Why on earth is that even occurring, what kind of idiotic scrip is that, what is causing it.
Say i have 24 divisions in army. Army is protecting front say of 6 provinces = 4 divisions per province. AI rarely puts 4 divisions per province often its 3 - 5 - 4 - 7 - 2 - 3 or something like that which in itself could be justifiable if general would take in to account side factors such as rives, fortifications etc, but it does not. It just randomly puts divisions like that. But i am not nearly annoyed with that as much as i am OUTRAGED when general, after battle starts, just starts to randomly move divisions around and with worst possible efficiency not from A- B - C - D - E, but from E to A, etc!!! AND FOR NO REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2)Just fix the GOD DAMN supply issues already. Supplying Vladivostok from Leningrad via convoys while at war with UK and Axis is just MIND BOGGLING.

I can not enjoy game like that, i just can not. I want and need to use front as it gives serious benefits and to micromanage 300 divisions would be just too much, but the way it is now just enrages me.
I BEG YOU FIX THIS ABSURDITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

 

[Panther]

To people who are "respectfully disagreeing" with me, could you please then tell me how i am wrong on this issue?
Can you switch off generals randomly moving divisions in absurd way in front and can you redirect supply via land rout and not get all convoys sunken?
Is there something i am missing or you just disagree for sports of it?

 

[BeauNiddle]

Yes we all know. It used to be worse. They are improving things. I think your exclamation & question mark keys are broken.

 

[ltccone]

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[Panther]

Yes we all know. It used to be worse. They are improving things. I think your exclamation & question mark keys are broken.

Trust me i know that it used to be worst, i remember 59584743654943030 naval battles as Japanese when my fleet would engage with Netherlands 3 submarines for YEARS, and so on but really these issues i am pointing out are OUTRAGEOUS.

 

[erwinrommel85]

The front shuffling is getting better.

Everything that floats in this game needs serious work.

 

[Panther]

The front shuffling is getting better.

Everything that floats in this game needs serious work.

I disagree with this - why not put a simple option to switch off moving divisions in front for general. If its too complicated to fix scripts and give them some logic, then just give people the ability to push a button and divisions stay in front and do not move. It would be way better then what is now.

 

[Captured Joe]

Trust me i know that it used to be worst, i remember 59584743654943030 naval battles as Japanese when my fleet would engage with Netherlands 3 submarines for YEARS, and so on but really these issues i am pointing out are OUTRAGEOUS.

How did you manage to not beat some subs for years?

 

[erwinrommel85]

You think front shuffling has not improved at all since launch?

 

[Panther]

How did you manage to not beat some subs for years?

When game was released for quite a while there was issue with fleet battles for example if as Japan you would capture those rubber rich islands that Holland had and place your navy there (no matter what configuration) you would sink some Hollands ships and then there would be these like 3 submarines that your fleet would engage again, again and again with NO RESULTS, it was maddening.

You think front shuffling has not improved at all since launch?

Well maybe that would not be fair to say that it has not improved, it has in sense that it used to happen more often, but it still happens often enough and it is basically game breaking moment since you do not really expect something that absurd to happen and make your army that is guarding front to have 0 entrenchment, to have some provinces empty of any armies, etc.

 

[erwinrommel85]

If your "do not move any troops" button was implemented, how would it be any different than just deleting the front once the troops got in place initially?

 

[BarrosRodrigues]

If you make the fronts shorter the AI (at least in theory) should be more efficient.

 

[Panther]

If your "do not move any troops" button was implemented, how would it be any different than just deleting the front once the troops got in place initially?

1)You would not need to micromanage divisions
2)You would still have support fire.

If you make the fronts shorter the AI (at least in theory) should be more efficient.

Well in practice it is not. Sure it does not happen with every general and on every front, but when it does happen it just breaks whole front up and ragequit follows, at least for me.

 

[fyrkrans]

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This link should help you, OP.

To people who are "respectfully disagreeing" with me, could you please then tell me how i am wrong on this issue? [...] Is there something i am missing or you just disagree for sports of it?

Well, I can only speak for myself, but since you asked: The reason I clicked on the "respectfully disagree" button is simply that you created this thread in the wrong (sub)forum, wrote in all capitals and used an obscene amount of punctuations marks. If you want more details or want to discuss this further feel free to PM me.

 

[Panther]

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This link should help you, OP.


Well, I can only speak for myself, but since you asked: The reason I clicked on the "respectfully disagree" button is simply that you created this thread in the wrong (sub)forum, wrote in all capitals and used an obscene amount of punctuations marks. If you want more details or want to discuss this further feel free to PM me.

Its neither in wrong sub forum nor is it in all capital letters. Since you have nothing to say about issues at hand and just came to "respectfully disagree" which as you say you have done i have nothing to PM you about.

 

[fyrkrans]

Its neither in wrong sub forum

But it is in the wrong subforum. Point 1 should be posted in the bug reports subforum and point 2 too, or maybe in the suggestions subforum.

nor is it in all capital letters.

True. I edited my previous post accordingly.

Since you have nothing to say about issues at hand

I provided you infos on how to register your game.

and just came to "respectfully disagree"

I most definitely didn't. It's what I did after I read what you wrote.

which as you say you have done i have nothing to PM you about.

No problem, it was just an offer to avoid off-topic in this thread.

 

[Had a dad]

o people who are "respectfully disagreeing" with me, could you please then tell me how i am wrong on this issue?

they don't have too, just like those that agree don't have to itemize what they agree with

 

[FOARP]

I disagree with this - why not put a simple option to switch off moving divisions in front for general. If its too complicated to fix scripts and give them some logic, then just give people the ability to push a button and divisions stay in front and do not move. It would be way better then what is now.

That button is called "don't use the battle planner". Seriously, the real issue here is that the battle planner isn't an interface for issuing order en masse but an AI system.

They could have made something like what you're asking for: you draw a line that you want your troops to take up positions along, and your troops are evenly distributed along it, and that's it.

Instead they decided to use the AI to decide where to position the units along the line the player draws and redistribute them continually. That's a pity because I don't think it works as well as the simpler system described above.

 

[Shinkuro Yukinari]

 

[Secret Master]

I think we're done here. We're off topic, and not accomplishing very much. I don't know how tempers flared, but here we are.

I'm just going to close the thread.