Plots are weaksauce

[Lord_P]

Plots are night useless.

Either you won't get enough backers to get to 100% (good luck succeeding without 100% power) or some backer will spill the beans sometimes numerous times in a row.

One time there weren't even enough possible backers in the pool to get 100%! What the heck?!

Plots against foreign rulers succeeded extremely rarely.

Something has to be done, perhaps something to increase plot power if you have high intrigue or sacks of money.

P.S. Why are there greyed-out plots in the intrigue menu that I can't choose?

 

[Ilyasviel]

You just have to accept that not everyone is meant to be assassinated. It wouldn't even make any sense if you could just start assassinating any foreign ruler just because you felt like it, especially if he's loved. And I think having high intrigue already increases plot power by default, and sacks of money can be used to bribe people into joining plots, just not everyone.

 

[Knotz]

The spilling of ze beans is the only one that really bothers me. Cuz it doesn't matter if you meticulously only pick cruel, deceptive non-gluttonous/drunk types there is ALWAYS a chance they'll spill. Dumb. I kill foreign rulers often enough, it isn't easy but should it be? Usually works if they're not liked which seems reasonable.

 

[RX2000]

I think plots are good how they are. It shouldnt be easy to do because then you would just go around killing anyone you dont like via plots. It would make everything too easy, like back in the day when they just had the "assassinate" button & if you had a lot of money you could just keep hitting it until the person died. Too easy.

 

[Matthias_Wlkp]

It would be cool if plot power would go up over time...

 

[Arona]

Thers hould be wayz to rise plot power and wayz to invite peoples to plot, like promise, titles, council posisions, estate. Or force someone to support your plot, like imprison his son.

Also there sould be like commands you can tell spymaster to kill or kidnap this person, and he organises it, asks money for bribes

 

[Sergeant Flutter]

Plots have been nerfed, I believe.

They got OP when Conclave came out, and then they got really under powered. When Conclave originally came out, I had a plot with over 1000 power.

 

[Olligarchy]

I've a fairly standard relationship with plots, where I ignore them and no plots against me succeed.

 

[Mr_jon3s]

What pisses me off is when you have improved relations and bribed a guy. He has 5 + for wanting to kill the guy and 3- to not want to kill. But he still wont join me in my plot to kill.