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I really can't tell you how badly this is needed.

When you have a lot of vassals, plotting among them is a nightmare. Most of them are only worth 1-2 percent. When you need 80-100 percent to get a plot going, and each vassal is worth 2 -- think about how much clicking that it. Open the panel, scroll down to find someone green, click the portrait, click invite. Now do that 40 times.

40 times. Three clicks and a scroll. 120 clicks and 40 scrolls. Each plot.

Seriously. Sometimes I want to plot to revoke a county and I don't do it because my hand still hurts from the last plot. For real.

I can't believe this isn't already implemented.
 

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I would never use it because I would be worried that I might invite some drunken fool.

Can inviting people with low intrigue stats or traits like drunkard actually backfire?

If not, "invite all" would be a great idea. If yes, an interface where you can mark people and then click a button to invite those who are marked would be great (think of your email account).

Also "embark all".
 

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Can inviting people with low intrigue stats or traits like drunkard actually backfire?

If not, "invite all" would be a great idea. If yes, an interface where you can mark people and then click a button to invite those who are marked would be great (think of your email account).

Also "embark all".

While true, this only matters if you can't fire the plot immediately. Personally, if I can't fire the plot right now and I care about blowback I just cancel it.

The situation I'm more often in is I have enough members to join to fire the plot, maybe a few with bribes, but first I have to physically click 140 times to make it happen. The plot isn't going to be active long enough to get discovered because as soon as everyone joins I'm firing it off. So I really don't care about loose lips.

And boy do I also want that "embark all"! It makes using ships useful. Most of the time I'll march troops somewhere when I could sail them much faster simply because I don't want to click on all those armies to board ships.
 

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Maybe we could have a button "select all", then skimming to see if there are drunkyards in our plots. I would like an option to exclude some people of the selection too.
 

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While we're making UI suggestions:

In addition to that embark all, could we please get a toggle for the selector between armies and ships?

When I want to select a big group of units, I want to select the armies and move them somewhere, and then the ships and move them. But if I drag a group on screen, it always picks the armies. If I want the ships, I have to zoom in and pick each navy out to avoid any armies on the map. I want a toggle so I can pick which gets selected when I drag.
 

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I'd like Realm Rallypoints with the default rally point being set in the Capital, for More disjointed Realms (Like a later game Sicily) you often will end up with an Army of Sicily, An Army of Africa and an army of whatever other regions you control making getting them all together and embarked a real pain, Giving Vassals some rally points like keeping with the Sicily Example, Tunis, Palermo and Lecce where you can easily pick up the armies with your navy.
 

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Adding a filter to the select all button would make it a viable option. I often let plots sit while waiting for the opportune moment, so there would need to be a way to filter out drunks, lunatics, and people with intrigue under a certain value.

As far as army management is concerned, a button to raise a liege levy and simultaneously load it onto the matching liege fleet would make playing the Byzantines much easier.
 

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Adding a filter to the select all button would make it a viable option. I often let plots sit while waiting for the opportune moment, so there would need to be a way to filter out drunks, lunatics, and people with intrigue under a certain value.

As far as army management is concerned, a button to raise a liege levy and simultaneously load it onto the matching liege fleet would make playing the Byzantines much easier.

Since this seems to be important to a lot of people, why not just put a checkbox next to each portrait. Then when you click "invite all" it invites everyone you checked. Still a lot less clicking.

And I also second rally points. I mention this myself in every thread it's relevant to. This exists in every other modern paradox game. The code is done. It's more useful to this game then any game before. Why is this not a feature? Put in into the next paid DLC and I promise everyone will buy it just to get rally points activated. Do that and "embark all" and people will buy two copies.
 

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In addition to having a button to sort individuals' plot power from highest to lowest, I'd like to see one for opinions as well. It should make it easier to see where bribes would be most effective.
 

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While we're making UI suggestions:

In addition to that embark all, could we please get a toggle for the selector between armies and ships?

When I want to select a big group of units, I want to select the armies and move them somewhere, and then the ships and move them. But if I drag a group on screen, it always picks the armies. If I want the ships, I have to zoom in and pick each navy out to avoid any armies on the map. I want a toggle so I can pick which gets selected when I drag.

Select a ship, press 'shift', it will now be in ship' selecting mode (clicking or boxing).
 

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I really can't tell you how badly this is needed.

When you have a lot of vassals, plotting among them is a nightmare. Most of them are only worth 1-2 percent. When you need 80-100 percent to get a plot going, and each vassal is worth 2 -- think about how much clicking that it. Open the panel, scroll down to find someone green, click the portrait, click invite. Now do that 40 times.

40 times. Three clicks and a scroll. 120 clicks and 40 scrolls. Each plot.

Seriously. Sometimes I want to plot to revoke a county and I don't do it because my hand still hurts from the last plot. For real.

I can't believe this isn't already implemented.

Because this is typical Paradox. Nobody there cares how the game is actually played. We'll never see an "invite all" button for the same reason mass imprisonment/banishtment abuse will never be changed: they simply don't care about how the game actually plays.
 

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Since this seems to be important to a lot of people, why not just put a checkbox next to each portrait. Then when you click "invite all" it invites everyone you checked. Still a lot less clicking.

And I also second rally points. I mention this myself in every thread it's relevant to. This exists in every other modern paradox game. The code is done. It's more useful to this game then any game before. Why is this not a feature? Put in into the next paid DLC and I promise everyone will buy it just to get rally points activated. Do that and "embark all" and people will buy two copies.

Yeah, checkboxes. Like in email. That's what I suggested too!
 

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What I think would be a better idea would be that people that will not accept under any circumstance would not be included in the list. Only people that would accept or may except if you put money into it are included.

I think you have too look at it as you having to actually speak to individuals to organise a plot, which I think is fine. Or perhaps you can have a request your spy master does it which would mean he would be unavailable for anything else, but then it would be automated, but that you might suffer other problems.