The demo is great and I've preordered the game and can't possibly wait for eight days to pass. The plot system looks to be one of the most promising aspects of the game, but there's a certain shortage in possible plots and ambitions. I came across this post on the Something Awful forums and thought to share it here where the devs can see it:
As I said the demo looks great and doesn't seem buggy at all. I understand if all features haven't been fleshed out by the time of release, but if additional plots were to be included in a patch that would be great.Here's the problem I've noticed, related to the shortage of plots and ambitions.
The full list of ambitions/plots is as follows:
Gain a liege's title (base factor 50)
Change succession laws (base factor 100), 4 varieties
Lower crown authority (base factor 1)
Kill somebody (base factor 1)
Kill your spouse (base factor 10)
Become a councilor (base factor 100), 5 varieties
Amass wealth (base factor 100)
Become a paragon of virtue (base factor 50)
Become exalted (base factor 50)
Get married (base factor 100)
Marry a ruler (base factor 100)
Have a daughter (base factor 50)
Have a son (base factor 50)
Get a landed title (base factor 100)
Become the primary heir (base factor 50)
Which doesn't seem so bad, at first. Particularly, the assassination missions are relatively few, with a small base factor. But let's take a closer look. First, strip out the goals only available to leaders, since most of your court isn't a ruler.
Gain a liege's title (base factor 50)
Change succession laws (base factor 100), 4 varieties
Lower crown authority (base factor 1)
Kill somebody (base factor 1)
Kill your spouse (base factor 10)
Become a councilor (base factor 100), 5 varieties
Amass wealth (base factor 100)
Become a paragon of virtue (base factor 50)
Become exalted (base factor 50)
Get married (base factor 100)
Marry a ruler (base factor 100)
Have a daughter (base factor 50)
Have a son (base factor 50)
Get a landed title (base factor 100)
Become the primary heir (base factor 50)
Still a fair selection. But unless you deliberately deprive them, your dynasty is likely to get married and have children fairly swiftly, cutting out these missions.
Kill somebody (base factor 1)
Kill your spouse (base factor 10)
Become a councilor (base factor 100), 5 varieties
Get married (base factor 100)
Marry a ruler (base factor 100)
Have a daughter (base factor 50)
Have a son (base factor 50)
Get a landed title (base factor 100)
Become the primary heir (base factor 50)
List is looking a bit shorter now. And several of these missions are unavailable to women...
Kill somebody (base factor 1)
Kill your spouse (base factor 10)
Become a councilor (base factor 100), 5 varieties
Get a landed title (base factor 100)
Become the primary heir (base factor 50)
'Become the primary heir' is an ambition that can only occur for people with claims if the current heir is significantly impaired in some way, or if the primary heir is female and the character in question is not. Since we're looking at women anyway...
Kill somebody (base factor 1)
Kill your spouse (base factor 10)
Become the primary heir (base factor 50)
Whoops. Turns out, married women in your court have, for the most part, literally nothing to do but plot assassinations. 'Kill your spouse' at least requires the character to significantly dislike their spouse, but the general assassination mission frequently (depending on traits and specific cause) only requires an opinion below zero. And guess what the relationship of a newborn baby (with no traits and a low diplomacy) is to a random woman in the court?