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And now you tell me I have to play your buggy imbalanced 8 year old game in Iron Man without mods in order to unlock all the features of CK3!? Fragg off pdx.
First pay to win mobile and now this crap!? I'm to old for this. Please tell me I'm wrong here.

Lmao. And here I am playing exclusively iron man ck2 for years.
 

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Well spend 30 minutes every other week playing a free game and you too can have them all too
The limited time I have to play I would much rather spend playing the game modded. And there in lies the crux of the matter. Why can't we get these things playing with mods? Why does it matter if some people may create cheat mods to get them easily?
Again we all get thrown under the buss for the sake of... I don't even know what to call it.
 

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Well spend 30 minutes every other week playing a free game and you too can have them all too

It'll take the average player a lot more than 30 minutes getting all three rewards unlocked. Heck, it'll take longer for highly skilled players unless they get lucky.

That being said, I mean, put in the effort to get the unlocks. Or don't. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me either way.
 

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Lmao. And here I am playing exclusively iron man ck2 for years.

Same here. Well, I play the AGOT mod a lot, but other than that it's all pure CK2 for achievements on my end. :)
 

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I dont like the new UI much...and graphic is I dont know... Cartoonish vs real... Im more for a real one but it would be nice if they could make the campaign map like Attila total war like for example. This what I saw from a early pictures is not finished.
 

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Lmao. And here I am playing exclusively iron man ck2 for years.
Same here. Well, I play the AGOT mod a lot, but other than that it's all pure CK2 for achievements on my end. :)
Well that's nice for you but why does it bother you so much that other people enjoy the game differently? Achievements is another thing, would be really fun getting some, but I'm not playing vanilla just to get them. I really don' see why, they only matter for one self, a mark of one's own accomplishment, so if people cheat to get them why does it matter to anyone else?
We're all being punished because some people might decide to cheat? The mods I play pretty much all make the game harder not easier.
 

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I am trying to get a sense of the problem.

So you either hate to play a suggested mission or don't have time for it. And if you want to play the mission, then it has to be with mods, because game balance sucks in vanilla.

At the same time, this minor cosmetic DLC is extremely valuable to you, because you like to collect those things. It's just you don't want to play the mission or play it in bronze man.

Damn Paradox. How could you do this to us? How could mistreat and discriminate us who don't want to play in your tune, but still want to get all the stuffs other players get?

Is it right?
 

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I am trying to get a sense of the problem.

So you either hate to play a suggested mission or don't have time for it. And if you want to play the mission, then it has to be with mods that game balance sucks in vanilla.

At the same time, this minor cosmetic DLC is extremely valuable to you, because you like to collect those things. It's just you don't want to play the mission or play it in bronze man.

Damn Paradox. How could you do this to us? How could mistreat and discriminate us who don't want to play in your tune, but still want to get all the stuffs other players get?

Is it right?
Pretty much. I've been saying achievements should not require ironman or checksum checks for ages. Why should the vast majority of those who prefer to play modded and not use it as a cheat, be discriminated against because a small minority may chose to use mods to cheat? But it is eccentrified a lot by the fact that these things give you access to actual content.
 

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Pretty much. I've been saying achievements should not require ironman or checksum checks for ages. Why should the vast majority of those who prefer to play modded and not use it as a cheat, be discriminated against because a small minority may chose to use mods to cheat? But it is eccentrified a lot by the fact that these things give you access to actual content.
What's the point of "achievements" if you can cheat. Oh wait. You just want to be able to do it because the game is buggy. You didn't mean to take advantage of it.

For me it feels like taking an exam with the answer sheet. You don't want to cheat. Yet you don't want to take the exam without the answers because there can be erroneous questions and you need to see the answers if a question seems wrong.

If you don't think that's wrong, or you don't see the analogy, then we can simply agree to disagree as I will move on from what seems a minor issue.
 

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What's the point of "achievements" if you can cheat. Oh wait. You just want to be able to do it because the game is buggy. You didn't mean to take advantage of it.

For me it feels like taking an exam with the answer sheet. You don't want to cheat. Yet you don't want to take the exam without the answers because there can be erroneous questions and you need to see the answers if a question seems wrong.

If you don't think that's wrong, or you don't see the analogy, then we can simply agree to disagree as I will move on from what seems a minor issue.
The point is something shiny for you to look at and remember when you did it without cheating. Why would someone else cheating diminish that? Also people can already cheat, they can for an example roll back to a broken patch where the achievement is super easy to accomplish because of some bug or unintended game play effect.

No one cares about which achievements you have aside from yourself, thus the only real thing what matters is how you got them.

And the difference there is that you don't do exams for your own sense of accomplishment. But that's the only thing that achievements are. Also modding can be a answer sheet but it can also be making the test way harder. I would guess most people who mod doesn't make them game easier but rather harder. Heck it's not like CK2 is a hard game to begin with, it's probably easier to get most achievements the old fashioned way than write up a mod to accomplish them. It's almost certainly faster.

Not to mention there are things they cannot do because of ironman, for an example they can't make an achievement which requires you to be a Merovingian because there is no Ironman way to play that dynasty.
 
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Well that's nice for you but why does it bother you so much that other people enjoy the game differently?

It doesn't bother me at all. I didn't say or even imply that it does. Where on Earth did you get that idea from?
 

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It doesn't bother me at all. I didn't say or even imply that it does. Where on Earth did you get that idea from?
Well considering the flood of dislikes I get it's bothering some people.
 

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Well considering the flood of dislikes I get it's bothering some people.

They're not dislikes, they're disagreements. People can disagree without being bothered in the slightest. :)

Truth be told I have no idea whether other people are bothered or not unless they tell us. I just know that I'm not. :)
 

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They're not dislikes, they're disagreements. People can disagree without being bothered in the slightest. :)

Truth be told I have no idea whether other people are bothered or not unless they tell us. I just know that I'm not. :)
I'm slightly contemptuous, if that helps!
 
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Is there any time limits on the "getting" of those cosmetics?
I don't see it be mentioned nowhere, so if op don't feel like playing for them, just wait until you will have the motivation for that exact scenario.
 

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Is there any time limits on the "getting" of those cosmetics?
I don't see it be mentioned nowhere, so if op don't feel like playing for them, just wait until you will have the motivation for that exact scenario.
There are, but they are apparently "very generous".