No console or mods that change the checksum. Saves are immaterial, and can be worked around in "proper" iron man anyway.
Please rethink the unlocks for CK3
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No console or mods that change the checksum. Saves are immaterial, and can be worked around in "proper" iron man anyway.
Aah, thank you for explanation. I didn't know that.
Anyway, from your reaction it seemed like there will be a government or religion locked behind this.
Maybe if you would have kept your reaction more civil, people wouldn't be that offended by your annoyance. I understand that we are on the internet and emotions are hyperboled to irrational degrees over a minor stuff like this.
I just wouldn't take a marketing announcement this long before the game's release this seriously. It was a motivation factor for people to test CK2, not announcement that CK3 content will be limited. Just take it little more easy, mate, and everything will be fine
I seriously doubt they would limit any important (even immersively important) stuff behind this.
I'd rather they not be a gameplay challenge reward OR a pre-order bonus OR a microtransaction and just put the fricking game in the actual GAME, on principle. Cosmetic or otherwise.
That's entirely fair.
Reading my first post I have no problem seeing why it upset people, and I'm sure a more diplomatic post would have been better received. That said, I'm absolutely certain that nothing I can say or do will change this marketing tactic.
Edit to OP: Yes, this is hyperbolic. Yes, my level of annoyance is irrational. In my defense; this us yet another game and franchise I see moving towards the gating off and carving up of content that IMHO should just be in the full game.
My anger is the result of a hundred little pinpricks from many different games and publishers, and seeing pdx first pulling the pay to win mobile move,a nd now this disappointment me. It s only because I love pdx-games so much and I have had a lot of respect form them making niche games for a demanding fanbase, that my disappointment got the better of me.
I'm angry because I'm disappointed. I stand by what I said, but I wish I'd phrased it better. And for that, I apologize.
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No but I would prefer to have them.
No my guess is they will be sold as a DLC for those who did not obtain them. Possibly after a certain time after release, something like a year.
Stellaris released the sign-up rewards (Platipy portrait + flag + symbols of Domination) with the 1.1 patch, so maybe it'll be the same for CK3? Would be nice to give everything a bit after the release
I would probably wait a bit more than that, but releasing the stuff for the one year anniversary seems like a reasonable thing, the people who put in the effort got an entire year of feeling special and the people who didn't still don't have to wait that long.
Personally I love the Monarch's Journey. The campaign I have going on as Brittany is really, really epic.
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Having cosmetic stuff I can get for free by playing the old game instead of paying for it? Awesome!
Having cosmetic stuff I can ONLY get by playing the old game? HELL NAW.
So if the time comes where it's confirmed that these cosmetics are locked behind CK2, I will be mad with you, my friend. I just have no reason to suspect that's the case, so--for right now--I don't care.
Having cosmetic stuff I can ONLY get by playing the old game? HELL NAW.
So if the time comes where it's confirmed that these cosmetics are locked behind CK2, I will be mad with you, my friend. I just have no reason to suspect that's the case, so--for right now--I don't care.
Suddenly playing the game to unlock content is bad? This has been widely considered great game design for decades, and is one of the biggest reasons people rail against micro-transactions--They rob games of in-game unlockables that used to be free. Because of financial motives, companies strip the games of interesting challenges by getting rid of actually interesting unlockables for your efforts. Now Paradox is putting free unlockables in the game and it's a bad thing? No, it isn't. It's good game design, full stop.
The fact that it's available in CK3 for playing CK2 is irrelevant, especially considering CK2 is now free and CK3 will not be out for several months.
Some people want everything for free with no effort. When game developers cave to that, they strip out the challenge for gamers who actually want to earn something through completing challenges. If I had to pit the two ideologies against each other, I would have to say the Challenge-Motivated customers are a far more compelling base to design a game for.
The fact that it's available in CK3 for playing CK2 is irrelevant, especially considering CK2 is now free and CK3 will not be out for several months.
Some people want everything for free with no effort. When game developers cave to that, they strip out the challenge for gamers who actually want to earn something through completing challenges. If I had to pit the two ideologies against each other, I would have to say the Challenge-Motivated customers are a far more compelling base to design a game for.
I mostly agree, but gameplay unlocks *within the same game* (IE unlocking CK3 content by doing things in CK3) is okay IMO. Of course, that does mean it must "be in the actual game" per your statement. It's the "you must play a completely different game to get full value in this game" that's more questionable.
There is no CK3 player who are directed to play a completely different game, CK2, to have his CK3 feature unlocked. Because CK3 is not released yet.
The event is only for CK2 players, who wants to play CK3 already.
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It's not that bad... That said, I really hope that they will include these cosmetics in one of the future dlcs for CK3. The first Challenge was kinda easy, let's hope they keep them on this level of difficulty.
You are indeed more optimistic than me, but I certainly hope you are right.
Like I've said, I'm willing to pay for content. (Not nickle and dimed via microtransactions, but that is not the subject here), and I don't mind unlocking things in the game I'm playing.
I'm old enough to miss the old business model for games, and I intensely dislike the new ones.
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