Please remove easy immunity from female claimants by switch to agnatic

[NewbieOne]

Sounds complicated, but the problem is simple:

switching to agnatic law after stealing an agnatic-cognatic or cognatic title immunizes you to female claimants, including previous holders. (Unless they happen to be landed.)

Obviously, they and their liege don't recognize your new laws. Also the public opinion certainly would understand that if you restore an old dynasty, you do not recognize the new dynasty's rules.

Thus, the usurper's daughters should be off limits but not the daughters of his deposed enemy back from Agnatic-Cognatic/Cognatic times.

In any case, previous holders (other than those who peacefully granted the title away) should get more leeway — they are not really being installed, they are being restored.

There may be more situations in which switching to Agnatic would be just too easy.

 

[AchedTeacher]

Yeah that seems sensible to a degree.

 

[NewbieOne]

Yeah that seems sensible to a degree.

Well, one could just make claims respond to the succession law that was in place when the claim was awarded, but that wouldn't be a good solution for all situations. For example peaceful changes in law versus the claims of collateral relatives etc. probably should yield to the new law, unlike in situations where one regime topples another. For example neither Edgar nor the sons of Harold would have cared/should care about Norman laws of succession, but they would have some finer points of Anglo-Saxon inheritance and elections to discuss between themselves. Something that the de Normandies, in turn, didn't give a a dime about because they claimed to rule by conquest plus earlier appointment.

So basically we need a notion of regime change. This is already present in history files, though, as it says 'gained by'. So the algorithm for that would need to check the 'gained by' and waive the agnatic ban if there was a holy war, claim or some other war between the time the claimant's claim goes back to (which may well be before the claimant's birth, e.g. child of a deposed king, born after deposition) and the time the law was changed by one of the new incumbents.