please make TAGs not dissapear after 1594

[sjobenrit]

dismantling the PLC after 1600 is a pain cuz there arent any tags left and roleplaying as the vassalHRE isnt fun when there arnt any tags left

 

[makaramus]

You can relase them as client states

 

[xavdang]

You can relase them as client states

Client states become available too late in the game to fill that role properly. Releasable tags are always easier to use as well, they come with a set name and color.

 

[makaramus]

Client states become available too late in the game to fill that role properly. Releasable tags are always easier to use as well, they come with a set name and color.

in that case maybe their cores can fade away, if a nation desire to relase them they can do so with peace deal or someting
but nation will only have his capital as cored and has to core everything again (With %50 discount)
"lost core" status does not give you claim or reconquest cb, it will be slightly easier to core but thats it

 

[Matihood1]

You're trying to revive a nation that's been out out the map for over 150 years (sometimes even more). Just think about it.

 

[makaramus]

You're trying to revive a nation that's been out out the map for over 150 years (sometimes even more). Just think about it.

No,no, he has a point
they should not be able to have cores but still possible to relase, that makes sense

 

[Sidolowka]

You're trying to revive a nation that's been out out the map for over 150 years (sometimes even more). Just think about it.

You can revive Wallachia 350 years after its disappeared, but not Moldavia even if they were only gone for 151. Same goes for Syria/Lebanon, Afghanistan/Sistan, so forth.

There's no real reason why some dead countries should have an arbitrary limit to when they can be released and when they cannot, while other countries are completely exempt from this rule.

 

[sjobenrit]

Also I think this might help against blobbing because with more possible tags after 1594: more resistance/more countries to join the collation against the player

 

[Matihood1]

You can revive Wallachia 350 years after its disappeared, but not Moldavia even if they were only gone for 151. Same goes for Syria/Lebanon, Afghanistan/Sistan, so forth.

There's no real reason why some dead countries should have an arbitrary limit to when they can be released and when they cannot, while other countries are completely exempt from this rule.

You're right. All cores should disappear after 150 years at most. I mean, aren't cores supposed to represent administrative infrastructure in a province?

No,no, he has a point
they should not be able to have cores but still possible to relase, that makes sense

I mean, that's not actually that bad idea. The released nations would still have to take their time re-coring stuff though.

 

[sjobenrit]

You're right. All cores should disappear after 150 years at most. I mean, aren't cores supposed to represent administrative infrastructure in a province?

I mean, that's not actually that bad idea. The released nations would still have to take their time re-coring stuff though.

I disagree why then even put cores of countries like smolensk, gaeldom or nizhiny novgorod in the game? Finland, Iceland, and bulgaria did not get 'released' between 1444-1821 timeline and here we are, with all of those countries present. Removing cores of those countries only encourge more blobbing and if those countries get released they will still probably die of the -100 prestige malus and the limited amount of admin mana. Removing cores of countries that still exist (aka if sirhind and dehli both exist delhi still loses it cores), sure, but at least keep the 'core (haha) region' of the country intact with cores so that a country what existed in 1444 can be released in 1820 without collapsing before 1821

 

[Mr.Grizzly]

I don't know if its possible but I wish there was a way to designate like a super core where after 150 years they won't lose that core because the tag is the area or province, example Moldovia gets annexed and 150 years passes, the Moldavia area keeps the cores because that IS Moldavia but it's non-Moldavia area cores disappear. Even if Normandy isn't Norman, if someone liberates Normandy the whole region of it should be a core of the tag Normandy, because it is Normandy. Doubt it's possible but would be great.

 

[makaramus]

I don't know if its possible but I wish there was a way to designate like a super core where after 150 years they won't lose that core because the tag is the area or province, example Moldovia gets annexed and 150 years passes, the Moldavia area keeps the cores because that IS Moldavia but it's non-Moldavia area cores disappear. Even if Normandy isn't Norman, if someone liberates Normandy the whole region of it should be a core of the tag Normandy, because it is Normandy. Doubt it's possible but would be great.

yea, maybe their designated capital.
for byzantium, there is an event kicking them out so they will lose core at constantinapol anyway