Should't a vassal with low religious unity pick religious? I actually think idea picks should be more dynamic for the AI. If I remember correctly there might be a mod for this. (?)
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Please let overlord choose vassal's ideas groups. AI decisions really annoy.
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This thread should be helpful.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?posts/19371494/
As for you suggestion, it may or may not be too OP, considering how vassals drag you down sometimes. I'm going to address this in a rant later today.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?posts/19371494/
As for you suggestion, it may or may not be too OP, considering how vassals drag you down sometimes. I'm going to address this in a rant later today.
What about restricting it to non-integratable subjects, i.e. marches? Would be pretty cool if you could force your marches to take mil ideas ...
I also agree that it should cost the overlord something, be it MP's or increased LD of subject.
I also agree that it should cost the overlord something, be it MP's or increased LD of subject.
What about when forming nations? Like if you form Italy with Venice. You'd lose all your national trade ideas. Can there be an option to keep your old ideas if you form a country to prevent things like these?
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Some should. Others should pick Humanist, because (e.g.) they have off-faith tolerance in their NIs or religious values, which stacks with humanism to make religious disunity very nearly a non-issue.
Choosing them for your vassals is far too abusable, however, making better choices is a good move.
Choose a naval based ideates if they have more coastal provinces than in-land, for example.
If they have one or more trade centres, or provinces with trade bonuses, then go for trade based.
High base manpower? Is a March? Military.
Next to uncolonised province(s), then expansion/exploration...
Lots of provinces not state religion? Religious.
Low base manpower? Administration (or quantity).
Choose a naval based ideates if they have more coastal provinces than in-land, for example.
If they have one or more trade centres, or provinces with trade bonuses, then go for trade based.
High base manpower? Is a March? Military.
Next to uncolonised province(s), then expansion/exploration...
Lots of provinces not state religion? Religious.
Low base manpower? Administration (or quantity).
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Forming a nation represents adopting its ideals.
Forming Italy represents increasing militarization to match the Latin/Roman heritage. If you don't do this then you are not changing nations. If you want to stay a trading republic then what you are saying is that you want to stay as Venice ruling over the Italian peninsula. You cant have your cake and eat it.
I've already mentioned this in the Dev Diary on vassal interactions. If they have a free slot, then I think I should be able to pick for them (maybe increase liberty desire).
In my opinion it would actually make integrating a vassal a more strategic choice, as the vassal you will replace this one with may already have 4-5 idea sets picked. It could promote keeping and growing 1-2 vassals for long periods of the game and may perhaps even make me use marches.
There are already some vassals that are desirable to keep (I.E bradenburg/prussia and Sweden), allow me to pick military ideas for a march for example would make keeping other tags around a more "viable" choice.
if you want to restrict colonizing abuse, give them the same penalty as CN's with basically only 25% growth. that makes it "okay" but not particularly broken.
In my opinion it would actually make integrating a vassal a more strategic choice, as the vassal you will replace this one with may already have 4-5 idea sets picked. It could promote keeping and growing 1-2 vassals for long periods of the game and may perhaps even make me use marches.
There are already some vassals that are desirable to keep (I.E bradenburg/prussia and Sweden), allow me to pick military ideas for a march for example would make keeping other tags around a more "viable" choice.
if you want to restrict colonizing abuse, give them the same penalty as CN's with basically only 25% growth. that makes it "okay" but not particularly broken.
Aren't they supposed to be able to pick anything now, depending on their situation?
The dynamic idea picking is not standard. You have to use a mod to activate. Or find the line in in the defines yourself and change it.
I like the idea of being able to choose client state ideas upon its formation, but not for vassals.
If they have a free idea slot, i'd be okay with it. going in and saying "drop economic and take quantity" I wouln't.
Basically Event: Our Vassal XYZ has reached ADM tech 10, they can now select a new idea group. They prefer Trade
choice: The choice is theirs. (they pick whatever they want, maybe small relationsboost, or lower LD)
I RULE XYZ. Have them focus on: (pick idea group, large hit to relations/LD)
Not for territory, but for vassal.
Anyway, what profit from Maritime ideas will AI Circassia ever get? I'm not even talking about vassals, just AI. Same for Armenia, taking Espionage as their second set, for instance.
Many people mentioned about how OP would be choosing idea sets for vassals, but I fail to see how this feature is less OP then forcing vassal's religion or culture.
We don't want to choose idea groups for our vassals, the actuell situation ist perfect.
OK, how can you justify Brittany's 2nd idea set as Religious? Don't you think that Trade, Aristocratic, Defensive, Quantity, Economic or even Humanism (to prevent religious turmoils) would fit better for a 4-province minor?
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I can't honestly persuade myself it matters what ideas Circassia takes in any game except one where it's being either played by a human (in which case the AI's choices are irrelevant) or used as a "keeper" vassal by a human player, but yes, Maritime does seem a rather odd pick.
It synergizes strongly with forcing religion/culture (since you would be able to not only force them to be your religion, but also to take Religious Ideas).
So they help you convert a bit. But here's the deal, when do you integrate them, when you could feed them just a few more provinces to convert.. it's a choice. Besides most people don't just take religious for the conversion, but for deus vult.
And it's not too different from sniping those vassals that are already taking religious. And then forcing your religion on them. Except that it doesn't make certain tags a lot more valuable than others (to keep as vassals).
When you're in a position to conveniently launch a new feeder vassal.
Really? I take it for both (since making good use of the religious CBs pretty much implies doing lots of conversions).
Yes. But if you didn't have deus vult (which you won't if you don't take religious yourself and just have your vassal convert), would you still pick religious?
And if idea group picking is restricted to the AI actually having a free idea group slot (basically during tech up), then you can't just willy nilly vassalize someone because they won't have a slot to pick till they upgrade their ADM tech.
You'll eventually integrate him, yes, but it's a much more strategic choice than it currently is.
Coring things yourself + vassal feeding > vassal feeding only.
And coring things yourself is likely, in turn, to imply converting things yourself. (Unless you have Humanist-synergizing NIs or religious values, in which case Humanist > hypothetical Religious-without-DV.)