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both panzer leader + combined arms specialist = cool
only combined arms specialist/expert/leader = OK
only battlemaster = NOT cool
only combined arms specialist/expert/leader = OK
only battlemaster = NOT cool
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Normally I don't care about things like this as I don't usually get emotional about games. Plus I am an old geezer. But Battle Master sucks more than a freaking Hoover does. period. I won't miss Panzer Leader, but I'll hate Battle Master for the rest of my days. Over and out.
I'll live though... Paradox is great!
But seriously, change the name.
I'll live though... Paradox is great!
But seriously, change the name.
I don't care if they change the name; however I concur with many others that "battlemaster" doesn't fit well.
I'll make a small appeal to the dev's to change the name in game.
I'll buy the game to play it, not mod it.
Modding may be easy for the developers, but I have no interest in learning how to key the coding on Paradox's behalf.
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PS The Dev Diaries are looking great! Keep the great changes coming.
I'll make a small appeal to the dev's to change the name in game.
I'll buy the game to play it, not mod it.
Modding may be easy for the developers, but I have no interest in learning how to key the coding on Paradox's behalf.
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PS The Dev Diaries are looking great! Keep the great changes coming.
You can already type, so you are 99% of the way there. The other 1% is opening a text file, hitting find, putting "battle master" in the box, and then typing in whatever you want to call it instead.
Batman has 9 skill and Panzer Leader, Offensive and Defensive Doctrine, Superior Air Tactician traits.
Because he is the goddamn Batman.
I'm very happy that Devs change Panzer leader ,to Battle master in game mechanics, and too in game of name.
And for me it is secondary case which name is good, battle master, CA leader, or Batman^^
Propably the first mod to new expansion will called:
"Battle Master to Panzer Leader name fix bug, damn PI!!" or sth similar
BTW And second mod
"SS Waffen mech/mot/Tiger II mod"
And for me it is secondary case which name is good, battle master, CA leader, or Batman^^
Propably the first mod to new expansion will called:
"Battle Master to Panzer Leader name fix bug, damn PI!!" or sth similar
BTW And second mod
"SS Waffen mech/mot/Tiger II mod"
"Battle Master to Panzer Leader name fix bug, damn PI!!" or sth similar
well, battlemaster cannot be renamed to panzer leader because some divs without any hard targets in it will receive the trait bonus.
In my opinion it is very good change, both in terms of game mechanic and name.
"Panzer Leader" in HoI 3 is great incomprehension-> you can gain CA without having panzers.
#Saint-Exupéry
1. Yes new expansion is waste of tradition, becouse have new features.
2,3 Which fact? That Blitzkrieg can only be achieved with panzers? And artillery, enginners, armoured cas are waste of resources...
Ok I love that kind of history...
Imagine the game is porsche, and changed name to porsche-bmw. You have different car now?
Devs don't change name
"Panzer Leader" in HoI 3 is great incomprehension-> you can gain CA without having panzers.
#Saint-Exupéry
1. Yes new expansion is waste of tradition, becouse have new features.
2,3 Which fact? That Blitzkrieg can only be achieved with panzers? And artillery, enginners, armoured cas are waste of resources...
Ok I love that kind of history...
Imagine the game is porsche, and changed name to porsche-bmw. You have different car now?
Devs don't change name
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I can see both sides of the coin, panzer leader is indeed misleading. However battlemaster? That's just... well... not cool... please just give it 5 seconds of thought and you'll come up with a better name. Well, you surely cannot come up with worse.
Perhaps this trait:
Perhaps this trait:
Each component of an army is usefull in its way. But footmen doing Blitzkrieg ? Or are they all marathonians (with an heavy backpack) ?
Tanks don't act alone, they need infantry support for the follow up, but tanks lead the way. Just read the names of the land doctrines who refer to this: mobile warfare, spearhead doctrine, schwerpunkt, mechanized offensive. And combined arms ist just a one-shot doctrine.
Jack of all trades, as the name will apply to a huge number of brigades combinations.
of course infantry is still the most important part for your mythical blitzkrieg. tank divisions were the fast units leading the way since their infantry was motorised. just look up what happened in Dünkirchen.
most of the german army marched on food and relied on horses for the entire war. i am not sure you actually know what your are talking about. look up the equipment of a german tank division in 1939 and the equipment of a infantry division. then count the divisions and compare the numbers...
tank divisions were combined arms units...
besides, heavy tanks were often slower then infantry in most terrains.
Do you say that in WW2 it worked this way: you send the infantry to break the enemy resistance and then the tanks follow them. Or was it the other way, tanks first, then infantry ?
And I agree, most of the battles were still fought by infantry, but for the breakthroughs, even if it was a small part of the fighting, it was armoured formations (with motorized/mechanized infantry in them). And this small part allowed encirclement of thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of enemy soldiers.
And I agree, most of the battles were still fought by infantry, but for the breakthroughs, even if it was a small part of the fighting, it was armoured formations (with motorized/mechanized infantry in them). And this small part allowed encirclement of thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of enemy soldiers.
In my opinion it is very good change, both in terms of game mechanic and name.
"Panzer Leader" in HoI 3 is great incomprehension-> you can gain CA without having panzers.
#Saint-Exupéry
1. Yes new expansion is waste of tradition, becouse have new features.
2,3 Which fact? That Blitzkrieg can only be achieved with panzers? And artillery, enginners, armoured cas are waste of resources...
Ok I love that kind of history...
Imagine the game is porsche, and changed name to porsche-bmw. You have different car now?
Devs don't change name
Catastrophy.
I give up, I will mod it for myself.
Darkrenow with all respect for what are you doing, and I believe Finest Hour will be great addon...we know there were leaders that were strictly tied and aknowledged to be experts in panzer warfare,Patton for example.Guderian?
Infact by Battlemsater there is space for true Panzer Leader now,to be set in its first time true form,armoured expertise for very few generals?
Battlemasters tipicaly are type of Manstein,Montgomery,Eisenhower...many others
Panzer leaders only few,Gudrian, Rommel,Patton..
I mean, isnt strange we have a room for such rarities like ..swamp rat.. but not room for narow field expert in tank/mechanized warfare?
Is there possibility ,a space, to try to leave Panzer leader and Battlemaster side by side?
Battlemaster to be as described, and Panzer leader a edge over it operating tank and mechanized brigades.
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