Please give ecumenism to Nestorianism [and possibly change name to Syriac]

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The Nestorians represent the East Syriac Church, which is woefully underrepresented and, I think, misunderstood in this game. Although they disagreed with the Roman church at the Council of Ephesus in 431, they are and were an ancient particular church — with a patriarch — not a heretical sect. The logic of the game gives ecumenism to the Coptic church, which disagreed with Rome at the Council of Chalcedon in 451, only 20 years after the Syriac split, so it is incongruent not to also give the ecumenism doctrine to the Syriac church. The Romans would not view them as a hostile faith nor ever call a crusade against them!

I think the confusion may at least be partially because they are called the Nestorians, and Nestorius was viewed as a heretic by Rome. It would be better to call it Syriac, since the church did not entirely accept Nestorius' teaching anyway. What it looks like in CK3 is some secretive, hidden-away syncretist sect that closely followed a heretical founder, rather than the hugely influential, widespread ancient eastern church that it actually was historically.

Also, somewhere in development the research may have confused the Nestorians with the Manicheans, a syncretist religion that is in the game. The Syriac church was not syncretist.
 
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    For anyone interested, I uploaded a very simple mod that just adds the ecumenism doctrine to the Nestorian faith with no other changes. Unfortunately, of course, having to use a mod for this disables Achievements.

     
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