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So I was playing as Rome and had a civil war - just 3 provinces one of which was over seas and hard to take

still pretty early in the game an my total army was about 100-120 units

the event triggered over 12 times over 3 months - thats 60 units of impossible to get rid of mercenary loyal troops suddenly draining over 5 gold a month!!!

I am playing 1.2 - but that 120% cap seems to have no effect on me.....
I was already over that limit but that didn't seem to matter cause the event kept popping up

Am I missing something here???? or should I just get rid of the #%@#$@ event myself?
 

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You could have gotten rid of the event yourself in the time it took to write your post ;)
 

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Yeah I know - I just wanted to know if I was missing anything or how other people felt

Since posting I have just edited the event - now it gives 1 heavy infantry instead :rofl:
 

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that_sweed - why do you even write replies like that? Users should not be expected to mod their games to debug them. If there is a bug, or poorly implemented feature, it's benefitial and justified to report it here, so it can be repaired in future patches. It's you who have nothing meaningful to contribute, unlike the original poster.
 

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Kamamura said:
that_sweed - why do you even write replies like that? Users should not be expected to mod their games to debug them. If there is a bug, or poorly implemented feature, it's benefitial and justified to report it here, so it can be repaired in future patches. It's you who have nothing meaningful to contribute, unlike the original poster.

Because the event in question has been reported like a thousand times? Some mods have already fixed it and Paradox are probably aware of it.
 

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that_sweed said:
Because the event in question has been reported like a thousand times? Some mods have already fixed it and Paradox are probably aware of it.

Changed it how? To what?

I like the event myself, but I do feel there should be some tweaking - like less maintenance costs for them or a lesser buy-out when disbanding them.
 

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I haven't tested my new version yet but just making them not mercenaries would clear up a lot of the cost - because as far as I can tell the cost of mercenaries is exponential - the more you have the more they cost
 

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Actually the monthly maintenance cost for mercenaries is about the same as for regular troops (check the tooltips to see for yourself). The big difference is that mercenaries cost ridiculous amounts of money to disband.

Solution: don't disband them, ever ever. Send them off to die in a foreign war or fighting barbarians, attrition alone will do most of the work for you, and you'll never have to pay them off to stop draining your treasury again! :)
 

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I have had no problems being over 120% force limit with loyal donations happening.

Are you sure you were over 120%?
 

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dojoboy said:
Changed it how? To what?

Added a "No Thanks" option, for the most part. Although I can't speak for everyone.

I'm looking at some other limits as well - the idea of one prominent guy donating an entire legion (5-6000 men) to the state is pretty absurd.
In fact, I'll go look at those events now (if you didn't know, there's actually two events of this sort, one in morecivilwar.txt and one in mercs.txt
 

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Added a "No Thanks" option, for the most part. Although I can't speak for everyone.

I'm looking at some other limits as well - the idea of one prominent guy donating an entire legion (5-6000 men) to the state is pretty absurd.
In fact, I'll go look at those events now (if you didn't know, there's actually two events of this sort, one in morecivilwar.txt and one in mercs.txt

Not all that absurbd. Pompey, when only 23 years old, was able to provide Sulla with three whole legions (raised from former veterans living in Italy) thanks to his inherited wealth and the prestige of his father. Perhaps the cost to the senator should be made much higher. Is it possible to set the event to trigger only for prestigeous and very rich senators?