Don't hate the dove, hate the person who killed it!
AKA Probably that guy who sniped your next expansion plan...
AKA Probably that guy who sniped your next expansion plan...
Please get rid of the dead bird before release
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Glad it's not just me who thought the Dove icons were awful.
Have like, swords or alien skull pips or something. Even a simple scroll icon would be clearer?
Have like, swords or alien skull pips or something. Even a simple scroll icon would be clearer?
It's not necessarily that it's a dove, it's how discordant it is with the other icons. It looks bad because it doesn't fit in with the established aesthetic.
Why not a green sword leaning to the left for my CBs and a red sword leaning to the right for CBs against me. Clear meaning at a glance. And would fit better with excisting icons.
Yes.
Also, the same could be asked of the dove, and a lot of people seem to have problems with it, so not like this suggestion is any worse than the abomination we have right now. Seems better to me, if anything.
The rival icons work the exact same way, a simple lightning bolt turned left or right. Easy to understand. Literally never seen anybody complain about that one or express difficulty understanding it.
How do a Green and a Red sword transalte to "casus belli" for you?
I would say:
Green is: you can go to war (wich fits)
Red is: you can not go to war (wich does not fit)
Just yesterday I was thinking that if people wouldn't automatically rival back once the other empire does it first, I'd have no idea which is rivaling which. Left or right alone doesn't tell me anything.
Yeah, rivaled by and rivaling are not immediately clear either.
Still, at least the icons look good.
I polled a number of people, who don't use these forums, on what they would think a dead dove icon in stellaris would mean. Every answer I received was some variety of casus belli.
This is a terrible joke...
I agree with many here that the dove icon looks totally out of place and nevermind that I have an ultrawide monitor where the red/green icon beside the dove actually made it harder to read.
I would rather something that was MUCH easier to read at a distance and fit with aesthetic overall better of Stellaris. As opposite to "dove vs dove".
An alternative could be a sword thrown upon a crumpled treaty. Though really, this is the nitpick to end all nitpicks.
Eh, to me that implies an action that has already come to pass. Not a warning that "oh hey watch out. That other Empire wants a piece of yours."
We are getting a menu we can view claims on our systems that isn't the Contact/Diplomatic screen right?
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Where is the "I love this but simultaneously hate I didn't come up with it first" button?
I constantly have to mouse over the icons to see which is which.
I like the drum suggestion earlier. Maybe a drum for 'has CB' and a crosshairs for 'target of CB'
Then all Paradox has to do is make a dead dove icon that fits in with the style of the other Stellaris icons and everything will be fantastic!
Yeah, I couldn't tell what it is either but it definitely stands out due to mismatched styles, I feel it should get a rework as well.
The problem is specifically that unlike the rest of the stellaris icons which have bold contrasting color schemes with darkened borders around the details - even on the more detailed icons like the subject/overlord ones - these icons only have the darkened border around a mostly-white with subtle value differences dove (that i couldn't even tell it was a dove at first) and then a green.. thing.. and a red crosshair that have no bordering around them despite being pixel-wide details (Which on a 4k screen is very hard to make out) and are these relatively non-dark colors overlayed directly onto the white of the dove.
The dove itself should be simplified or something (so that there aren't subtle variations in its color), and the symbol on top should be made more bold with the darkened border that every other stellaris diplomacy status icon uses so that it is more clear what you are looking at and the different shape language of the overlayed symbols is more pronounced for those who are colorblind.
The problem is specifically that unlike the rest of the stellaris icons which have bold contrasting color schemes with darkened borders around the details - even on the more detailed icons like the subject/overlord ones - these icons only have the darkened border around a mostly-white with subtle value differences dove (that i couldn't even tell it was a dove at first) and then a green.. thing.. and a red crosshair that have no bordering around them despite being pixel-wide details (Which on a 4k screen is very hard to make out) and are these relatively non-dark colors overlayed directly onto the white of the dove.
The dove itself should be simplified or something (so that there aren't subtle variations in its color), and the symbol on top should be made more bold with the darkened border that every other stellaris diplomacy status icon uses so that it is more clear what you are looking at and the different shape language of the overlayed symbols is more pronounced for those who are colorblind.