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I've always avoided very small American nations because I was under the impression the the USA guaranteed the borders of every American country... Was that just a mistake on my part, or is it possible to work your way around the USA and take over other South and Central American countries without having to get ruined by the USA?
 

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Well not playing as a small american nation but in my Mexico game I managed to create an alliance with the USA so now whenever i go to war with a country who's independance they've guranteed they're dragged along too. This is casuing my belligerence to soar any chance it will get so high that the allies will declare war on me cos US vs. the allies would be very interesting to watch
 

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The RC said:
I've always avoided very small American nations because I was under the impression the the USA guaranteed the borders of every American country... Was that just a mistake on my part, or is it possible to work your way around the USA and take over other South and Central American countries without having to get ruined by the USA?
You can take a lot of american countries watching your beligerence level ( no bigger then 70-80) and US Intervencionism policy. Next prepare for war with US and you can grab all America. On every beach 2-3 infantry or 1 + 10 lvl coastal fort and on US-Mexico border build 10 lvl forts and you are safe. But it takes many year. Brasil is the easiest becouse IC, manpower and huge land. It's like American's Italy. In game I've play now I will try to paint world one colour with Brasil on modified normal/VH (human - normal level, AI - VH)
 
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Romania is a ton of fun... I was able to attack and annex Hungary very early, then I entered the axis and germany and myself sacked yugoslavia... giving me the bulk of its territory. After a year or so of army building, I invaded and sacked bulgaria... I was going to walk into greece and turkey, but then the SU DoW me and it was pretty much over lol... great learning experience.
 

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korbelz said:
I love playing minors, i learned to play DD with this list of games: South Africa, Poland, 2nd South Africa, 2nd Poland, Italy(learned tons with this game), then did a full GC US, and i'm on my 2nd GC US.
Today I learned that playing as minor country may end with unwanted alliance with AXIS .... Playing Brasil in 1943 Allies DOW me and I've ended automatically in AXIS and having extra war with USSR.
 

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Canada can be pretty fun too. Build up an expeditionary corps and then spearhead the Allied counteroffensive. In a HOI2 game the reluctant UK and US AI refused to help me out, so it was a race between Canada and the USSR to divide up Germany. Don't know how it would play out in DD.

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From the thread-title: Very small nations. Brazil? Canada? Romania? South Africa? These hardly qualify as "very small". Commonwealth nations are especially out of question, since they won´t have to care about resources and are given blueprints for free...

But anyway. I think the OP, new to the game as he is, has done a suprisingly good job in his Portugal game. What´s the manpower of Portugal? How many divisions can they possibly raise? Holding on against the SU?! :eek:
 

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The_Kaiser said:
I had tons of fun playing as Brazil. Not nearly as small as Portugal, but you are IC bound. Go for it and just play for a little while. I will say you learn more when playing IC bound countries because you really get the hang of bang for buck units and wars.

Oh? Not particularly IC-bound, if you ask me - in my current game, I have 200 IC, have bases all around the world, and am a major world power with an entirely up-to-date military... and am about to conquer the U.S. The nice thing about Brazil is that, for once, it IS worth building up your IC instead of units in the start, because no one bothers you... at all... ever. :) I personally built my way up to 85 IC before I even bothered conquering much more than Uruguay and Paraguay. Actually, I highly recommend Brazil as a starter country - they even have good tech teams. :)

As for Portugal - take Ireland, too! So long as you suck up to the U.K. first... then go prey on small helpess countries in the Middle East and Asia. Can take Guanxi Clique if you act quickly (otherwise, SOMEONE - be they China or Japan - will annex them), and perhaps Yunnan, and then you have a good base of operations in Asia, with which you can eventually take advantage of a distracted Nationalist China while they deal with Japan (in my Portugal game, I actually managed to annex them). I also suggest Turkey, Persia, Afghanistan, Sinkiang, and Tibet... but again, act quickly, and make sure you're on friendly terms with the Soviets. Could also (though I never actually did this, as a member of the Axis) join the Allies, and then use Belize City as a jumping-off point for conquering Central and South America. Brazil would make a tempting target, with all that IC - and you'd bring that errant colony back into line, too! ;) Spain is also a good target, but only when distracted, at which point you can run some cavalry in and take all the Victory Point provinces. VP-seizing - a small country's best friend. :) Either way, good luck!
 

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Noone can deny that Turkey is the best minor to play with. There is absolutely no doubt about that. There is a really big potential of getting Turkey into a power machine with its neighborsand its forth(Greece, Bulgaria, Persia, Yugoslavia, Romania etc.) Getting into the Axis at the right time, Turkey can be the ruler of the Middle East.
 

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TheGreatTurk said:
Noone can deny that Turkey is the best minor to play with. There is absolutely no doubt about that. There is a really big potential of getting Turkey into a power machine with its neighborsand its forth(Greece, Bulgaria, Persia, Yugoslavia, Romania etc.) Getting into the Axis at the right time, Turkey can be the ruler of the Middle East.

That would be a damn good idea... I think there is an Ottoman AAR like this - I am not sure, but I think they gave themselves cores in all the local governments...

After Wakanda, I think Turkey would be a fine choice... :p
 

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played as ottoman empire after editing them into 1936 senario. gave cores on former balkan subjects minus greece plus cores on egypt. managed to get iraq to be annexed when i demanded territories and france to return syria and lebonon. built up armies and waited for protection treaties to expire and annexed bulgaria albania greece and yugoslavia.

attacked romania after soviet dow them and annex all of it.
join axis after the fall of france and push britain out of middle east and egypt.
still waiting for barbarossa though.