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Has anyone noticed how the Krupp decision demands 500 industrial score, was it always so? It seems quite difficult to get that high a score, at least during the first 20 years of the game.
Yes, it was always 500 IS, but in former times 500 IS was pretty nothing

I tried the same strategy of occupying Austria and waiting to see if they'd drop out of GP status, because I wanted to slap on a puppet goal before ending the war. I waited 2 years and it didn't happen, and they dropped out the day the war ended. So apparently a GP can't lose GP status while at war, whether this is intended or not.
To wait until Austria from GP (during war) is very random. They still sit on their high prestige and it could take up to 10y and more until they drop, I prefer now hegemony,humlitate,take bohemia peace deal after I completely crushed them - they will drop then from GP for many many years. And nation can drop from GP during war - it just takes one long year.
 

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Yes, it was always 500 IS, but in former times 500 IS was pretty nothing


To wait until Austria from GP (during war) is very random. They still sit on their high prestige and it could take up to 10y and more until they drop, I prefer now hegemony,humlitate,take bohemia peace deal after I completely crushed them - they will drop then from GP for many many years. And nation can drop from GP during war - it just takes one long year.

Oh no, it has nothing to do with that. In my game, Austria's prestige was rock-bottom, and their total ranking was down in the 20s by the time I got through with them. Still didn't drop their GP slot until the day the war ended.
 

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So far my game as Prussia is going well, formed the NGF in ~ 4 years and the German empire only a few years after that. Tried to get Austria into greater Germany but I was unsuccessful. I managed to bring their prestige down to zero but because Austria has the second largest industry in my game (??) they were able to retain their GP status.

Anyway, France has declared war on me to get AL back, and Russia joined on their side. One of my main objectives is to Conquer large swaths of Russia so I thought hey, I can start early. However, I seem to be unable to add any wargoals as my jingoism is too low (war is going in my favor so that's not the problem). This is a problem I don't recall ever having in Vanilla Vic 2 (granted I only played two full games, France and Brazil, plus Two Sicilies up to about 1880). Because of that I first thought this was a new feature in AHD, but after doing some reading apparently it's nothing new. Anyone else have this problem as Germany? Strange that I never had it before. Any tips on how to increase Jingoism?
 

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I got a question

Will the decision to form Greater Germany appear once i conquer Austria, or do I need to conquer it before I form the German Empire?
 

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I got a question

Will the decision to form Greater Germany appear once i conquer Austria, or do I need to conquer it before I form the German Empire?

You don't need to conquer Austria at all, just get all the German core containing states in your sphere of influence and take A-L from France.
 

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Im just wondering how you guys manage it. If i start a game and DOW Austria on day 1 i get my ass handed to me every time.
My troops loose manpower every day and never reinforce. i try and wait on my own soil for them to come to me and still i get creamed.
any idea what im doing wrong here?

Well, firstly, there's a random chance that Austria will have powerful allies at day 1. Actually, when I planned to do the game this way, I restarted just so Austria didn't get any allies. So we were fighting 1 on 1. Well, they had Krakow as allies, but it's not really worth reloading :).
If they have Bayern as allies or another southern kingdom, it wouldn't be so easy, 'cos then you'll have very long borders with enemies (also, Sigmaringen will be occupied right off).

Secondly, AI is stupid, but not idiotic. If you gather all your army in 1 huge stack, AI will never attack it. Later, when fighting with France I put small stack in Saarbruecken with good defending general (yes, you shouldn't call Bayern and, of course, Baden and Belgium at the start of war, but it'll be useful to call them later so they help you to occupy lands), and 4-5 another stacks behind. So AI gathers "doomstack" and attacks you at Saarbruecken, then you immediately rush your forces to help. First time I had something about 180 thousands of frenchies crushed by 130 thousands of mine with huge battle warscore. After they retreat, you immediately disperse your stacks behind, so they didn't suffer attrition. Then you wait for another "blue" stack, but next time it will be smaller. You can also try to surround them, so they'll be completely wiped out.

Austria is another kind, you have many provinces to border with them, so they probably won't attack you in exact province you want, but generally, tactic is the same. Fight on your own land, surround, attack, reinforce. But be careful with your small single stacks. If you left small stack somewhere without reinforcement it could be actually beaten by made-of-mud austrian army. Sometimes happened, when I was occupying Bohemian provinces when actual battles were still in progress. But you just need to hold some stack near your cavalry occupation troops.

Oh no, it has nothing to do with that. In my game, Austria's prestige was rock-bottom, and their total ranking was down in the 20s by the time I got through with them. Still didn't drop their GP slot until the day the war ended.

Well, GP can't lose its status all of a sudden. There is a time period during which they can regain their score not losing GP. In V2 it was 6 month, but in AHD I noticed it's a year. So it can be pretty long to wait. You need to monitor the ledger. If they have lower score then some "Secondary power", but still considered as a GP, this means they will lose their status, you just need to wait. Or you could just tag switch to see the exact date, I don't think it's cheating :).
If they lose GP status right after the war ended, it has nothing to do with game mechanics, it's just you couldn't wait one more day :).

I got a question

Will the decision to form Greater Germany appear once i conquer Austria, or do I need to conquer it before I form the German Empire?

There is no decision to form "Greater Germany". When you meet conditions for forming usual Germany, it's enough. Austria and Luxembourg are optional.

Also, I have a question: when you form Greater Germany, do you release some lands as puppets so you have less underdeveloped provinces? If yes, what lands exactly? I thought releasing Siebenbuergen and Ukraine/Ruthenia you'll have pretty borders, but then again, releasing only them isn't really helpful.
 

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Well, GP can't lose its status all of a sudden. There is a time period during which they can regain their score not losing GP. In V2 it was 6 month, but in AHD I noticed it's a year. So it can be pretty long to wait. You need to monitor the ledger. If they have lower score then some "Secondary power", but still considered as a GP, this means they will lose their status, you just need to wait. Or you could just tag switch to see the exact date, I don't think it's cheating :).
If they lose GP status right after the war ended, it has nothing to do with game mechanics, it's just you couldn't wait one more day :).

If you read my post, you'll see I said I waited 2 years.
 

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If you read my post, you'll see I said I waited 2 years.

Could be that the war somehow qualified as a Great War - in which case anyone fighting it is imune to lossing GP status... (I think that happens when multiple GPs are involved, but I'm not sure)
 

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If you read my post, you'll see I said I waited 2 years.

Well, then I'm not sure what was happening in your game. Maybe they dropped down to 9th, but then they had some prestige related invention and jumped to 8th then fall again, so the "lose GP" timer was restarted. That's why I said, you could tag switch to see the exact date.

Could be that the war somehow qualified as a Great War - in which case anyone fighting it is imune to lossing GP status... (I think that happens when multiple GPs are involved, but I'm not sure)

Actually, never heard of that in AHD. Need to read manual once again. Well, if so, you definitely should try to fight 1-on-1.
 

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Actually, never heard of that in AHD. Need to read manual once again. Well, if so, you definitely should try to fight 1-on-1.

It's not new for AHD - was part of Vikki since the start. Mind you, I really can't recall reading about it in the manual - just by the dev posts here on the forum...
 

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Just formed German Empire with Luxembourg and all of Austria

Europe here I come :D
 

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Don't see why people attack Austria. With foreign investments, I sphered whole Germany in several years as AI never ever invest any money, anywhere. So it's a one-way feature advantageous to the player. I also could ally OE, Austria, GB and France on day 1 so if I wanted, I could form Germany by 1843 with a kind of Crimean war vs French. Felt too cheesy though so I'm leaving it till 1870 as I usually do.
 

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Ok seriously guys HOW DO YOU FORM GREATER GERMANY? (yes is beginning to frustrate me.. :))

I occupied austria
- waited till it dropped out of GP
- Added war goal "add sphere" -> nothing happens upon peace just see austria go back to GP again in a year or so
- Added war goal "puttet" instead -> again nothing happens

what I am doing wrong? I dont know how to paste picture but they are A-Hungary now does that matter?
 

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Don't see why people attack Austria. With foreign investments, I sphered whole Germany in several years as AI never ever invest any money, anywhere. So it's a one-way feature advantageous to the player. I also could ally OE, Austria, GB and France on day 1 so if I wanted, I could form Germany by 1843 with a kind of Crimean war vs French. Felt too cheesy though so I'm leaving it till 1870 as I usually do.

Because if you beat Austria down to minor power and have them in your sphere you can form Greater Germany (modern Germany plus Austria).



Ok seriously guys HOW DO YOU FORM GREATER GERMANY? (yes is beginning to frustrate me.. :))

I occupied austria
- waited till it dropped out of GP
- Added war goal "add sphere" -> nothing happens upon peace just see austria go back to GP again in a year or so
- Added war goal "puttet" instead -> again nothing happens

what I am doing wrong? I dont know how to paste picture but they are A-Hungary now does that matter?

Well, according to other posts apparently Austria needs to have lost Hungary (free people). In vanilla this was not needed, don't know if it has changed.
But have you also remembered to get Alsace Lorraine from France? You also need that. And have you formed NGF? (not strictly necessary, but you need the north german minors in sphere at least) And do you have all the south german states in your sphere as well?

And remember that you need to trigger the decision to become Germany. If you only sphere Austria after you are already Germany there is some "mean time to happen" effect where you have to wait until a random time for them to join you.
And about the Austro Hungarian thing...Doesn't that mean you cant do it? Because when they are Austria-Hungary they give up all claims to Germany? Can't quite remember...sorry.

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I occupied austria
- waited till it dropped out of GP

Well, that was hardest part :)

- Added war goal "add sphere" -> nothing happens upon peace just see austria go back to GP again in a year or so

What were you waiting for?

- Added war goal "puttet" instead -> again nothing happens

No need to "puppet" them.

they are A-Hungary now does that matter?

Sorry, not sure. I think I heard something about that in PDM, but don't know about vanilla and AHD.

To form Germany, you need to either have all german cores or have them in your SoI. Simultaneously.

Here's a little checklist for you:
- All north german states (your starting SoI + Saxony + Hanover + Holstein + Schleswig). You can form NGF.
- All south german states (Baden, Wurttemberg, Bavaria, Alsace-Lorraine).

If you meet all these requirements, you can form Germany (enact the decision).
But since Luxembourg has North German as primary culture and Austria has South German as primary, they can join you if they're also in your SoI.
If you cannot enact "Three Hurrahs" decision, you can hover its description - "(?)" and see what conditions are in red.
Also, some(all?) unification decisions requires to be at peace.

P.S. Btw, if you form regular Germany and then include Austria in your SoI, they may never join. I remember once I, as Ireland, was redrawing european borders, I helped Germany to form and Austria to collapse (freed everybody except for Italian states), then Germany included them in their SoI, had good relations, but Austrians never joined. Don't know why.
 

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Thx Ajax and KC much appreciate the input!

yes sorry didn't give enough background I was bashing out a response in angst!

1. Yes I have already enacted three Hurrahs and formed German empire, by getting all the German states you stated
2. LUX then joined me by simply putting them in my SOI
3. I attacked Austria a second time. Humiliate, hegemony and took bohemia. Seems not enough to take them down
4. Attacked third time beat Austria and France, occupied all Austria and they fell from GP
5. Added war goal sphere -> they didn't join

I was told in other post the issue is they must release Hungary? so I make them release Hungary as well? I hope is not random or the chance is lost as Austria now became A-H

I want to fix this then make the Africa Reich :)