Playing as Venice and allies dishonor a defensive CTA

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I played as Venice and helped Austria with Burgundy for favors and to keep the alliance. Then peace comes and Hungary invades Bosnia, my vassal. Poland which has Lithuania as a PU, and did not fight any war, dishonors the CtA. Austria does the same although they at least were at war. My trading league has 21k, Hungary has 18k, so it will be tough to win. But why the hell does Poland, which was at peace without war and could've easily crushed Hungary's stack in a defensive war dishonors it. Trust is at 50 so not too low either. Is it my dip rep form all the diplo-annexation?
 

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Click the declare war button on an ally of Poland, then mouse over the red x or green tick icon, you do not!! declare war, just used to see what's going on in Poland.
 

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Is Poland friendly to Hungary by any chance? It doesn't take much to push them over the edge if they've got a debt situation going on too, especially if your diplo rep is low.
 

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Base reasons to honor defensive alliance is +30

Friendly attitude towards the declaring party is -20

-3 dip rep from diploannexation gives another -15.

So if Poland is friendly to Hungary even with no loans he will dishonor in most early diploannex situation. Or any other negative reasons adding up to -15 (loans / low manpower)
 

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Is Poland friendly to Hungary by any chance? It doesn't take much to push them over the edge if they've got a debt situation going on too, especially if your diplo rep is low.
Base reasons to honor defensive alliance is +30

Friendly attitude towards the declaring party is -20

-3 dip rep from diploannexation gives another -15.

So if Poland is friendly to Hungary even with no loans he will dishonor in most early diploannex situation. Or any other negative reasons adding up to -15 (loans / low manpower)
I don't think they're friendly, but I'll check
 

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Click the declare war button on an ally of Poland, then mouse over the red x or green tick icon, you do not!! declare war, just used to see what's going on in Poland.
yeah, thats probably a good idea
 

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Should I increase the trust to 60? What would be the increase?
 

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I think trust is +1 per point of trust for joing wars (defensive and offensive), so 100 trust would be +50. I could be way off, but it seems to help a fair bit.
 

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I think trust is +1 per point of trust for joing wars (defensive and offensive), so 100 trust would be +50. I could be way off, but it seems to help a fair bit.
So that means then +20 base reasons due to the +30 and trust, but the -4 dip rep. and I should then be able to do it, if I increase the trust by 10. I'll try that