The only way is through a custom nation. Norse was not practised by any leading figures, localised majority or authorities during the time of EU4, hence why no province has it, unlike the other two mentioned here.
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Yes I agree that would be neat and yes, Christendom would probably crusade you. Lol. Hellenistic paganism was very done by this time period but it had survived past Julian the apostate in quiet decline for a good while. I would hazard a guess that it may have lingered on maybe till the 7th century at max.
I think remnants of norse paganism held out for far longer in the north, especially Iceland, but in a backwater hybridized pagano Christianity where one might pray to Jesus for salvation but Thor while out at sea etc. There is a good course about the history of Scandinavia and Vikings that I sometimes listen to which delves into it and listed some dates i don't recall exactly but aspects of Norse pagan beliefs did linger for a few centuries after the tenth.
Not having any provinces with paganism as the main religion at the start of the game definitely is reasonable but having them included for conversion from ck2 games as rubidium mentions, and maybe just for fun, does make a lot as of sense now.
That is Sami province and Sami were never norse religiously or culturally.
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Oh is it? Nevermind then.
(Except that since Norse has mechanics and Sami doesn't it'd still be the best candidate for if they added one Norse province for game play reasons. Or at least the least bad candidate really, since there isn't a good one. But yeah; if they're deciding to add in one province of norse then mind this. Otherwise don't bother)
Well, it would be basically as accurate as making Ethiopia Buddhist so there is that. Better candidates for Norse religion would be those Norwegian islands in the north sea if it is must to include into the base game.
I don't see a reason to add any Norse provinces. I'd rather a decision to "return to the old gods", or whatever. That could be good game play!
Haha. Hard to justify historically but that would be fun 
Edit: there are of course precedents from an earlier era in Scandinavia of leaders who returned to the old ways. Say 10thcenturyish.
Edit: there are of course precedents from an earlier era in Scandinavia of leaders who returned to the old ways. Say 10thcenturyish.
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The difference lies in that the ones practising that faith today are rather peaceful and most likely have ordinary lives, while the ones back then wouldn't hesitate to kill you on sight
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The difference lies in that the ones practising that faith today are rather peaceful and most likely have ordinary lives, while the ones back then wouldn't hesitate to kill you on sight
That is a rather broad statement! I know what you're trying to say in that but I have to protest. The whole of Scandinavia was not a bunch of raving homicidal maniacs. I don't think that statement can really be made about any religious group in world history to be honest. Not everyone who lived their went on Viking raids for instance. It is however true that pre modern societies had a greater degree of violence which I assume is what you're getting at and to that I agree.
There major differences between neo pagans now and how the Norse worshiped. The context and societies are completely different and there are many beliefs and practice's that have been lost. It was not a religion with exhaustive texts explaining its practices like Catholicism is. If there stopped being Catholics for 500+ years you probably could in fact restart such a religion from written sources.
One imagines if somehow northern Europe had not Christianised the modern forms of that faith would be as peaceful as any other western religious sect. It is Scandinavia for gods sake too hahaha.
Judaism and Zoroastrianism you can convert to in game. I just started up a game as Persia and I was able to convert to Zoroastrianism(yazd was known for being a hub of the religion even in its waning days so it makes sense)
zero missionary let em occupy over 50% of your basetax convert. However the timurids will instant convert it so I think only Persia(vassal release) and timurids could convert to it before the religion disappears.
For Judaism just release semien and play as it, you will be jewish. Or if you want to do a jewish Ethiopia use the same religion trick
zero missionary let em occupy over 50% of your basetax convert. However the timurids will instant convert it so I think only Persia(vassal release) and timurids could convert to it before the religion disappears.
For Judaism just release semien and play as it, you will be jewish. Or if you want to do a jewish Ethiopia use the same religion trick
Or they could have all become like Nazis only worse. Tbf if that had happened the world would be a different enough place that we aren't able to make effective guesses without a lot of time and historical knowledge in order to be able to plot even one alternative version of history.
For the sake of example; If Europe hadn't Christianized, a lot of the legal structure may well have been different. Feudalism may never have caught on, for example. If we're just taking about Scandinavia and eastern Europe (the pagan regions during Charlemagne or Old gods?), the Normans may never have been christian. The hundreds years war could have been a Grand Holy war for West Francia. Or more likely not happened. It was a significant enough event, far enough in the past to have possibly changed most history.
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The difference lies in that the ones practising that faith today are rather peaceful and most likely have ordinary lives, while the ones back then wouldn't hesitate to kill you on sight
Citation needed.
Hellenism held on in parts of Greece for way longer than that, it lasted in the Mania region of South Greece until sometime after the 9th century.
Still, come EU4s timeframe it was long gone.
Doesn't make sense. It barely makes sense to have Zoroastrianism, Tengri and Judaism. With the exception of Tengri, none of them really had much influence, and Tengri died out as an influential religion rather early. I know all three religions still exist, Judaism having it's own state, Zoroastrianism being a decently sized religious minority in India / Pakistan and Tengri being in a revival in parts of the former USSR, but none of the religions really exerted much influence in the 1444-1821 period.
Norse and Hellenic really don't exist at the time. Both were pretty much rooted out in the CK2 timeframe. There are a few fun mods which allow you to revive relevant religions for your culture / religion, and they can be great fun at times, but sadly that's where the older religions belong.
Norse and Hellenic really don't exist at the time. Both were pretty much rooted out in the CK2 timeframe. There are a few fun mods which allow you to revive relevant religions for your culture / religion, and they can be great fun at times, but sadly that's where the older religions belong.
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Why isn't that one province in north Scandinavia norse? It's been pagan since the beginning.
Also on a side note, they should add Hellenistic religion for when they come out with a Rome game.
Fyi it would be grouped with norse since its the same root religion.
Also on a side note, they should add Hellenistic religion for when they come out with a Rome game.
Fyi it would be grouped with norse since its the same root religion.
Because Suomenusko isn't Norse, it's a different religion. If they wanted to add a religion for just the one province that'd be the way to go, not making the poor Sami people Norse.
Going by that logic Norse should be a Catholic Heresy, since elements of it borrow heavily from the same root. Jesus hanging on a Cross or Odin hanging from Yggdrasil for instance.
Pagan religions being grouped doesn't really make sense, but it's done since there are almost no pagan religions surviving the period.
Actually no, those religions were originally available only through the converter and were later added to base EUIV. Converted CK2 games add a lot more religions such as heresies and the rest of the reformed pagan religions. So Norse, Jewish and Zoroastrian are not for CK2 converted games, those games had them before.
Ah didn't know about the sami people.
But your logic for norse and catholic is way off.
Just google it. The norse gods and Greek gods have the same root ancestry.
As for the exact customs I can't say.
I view it kinda like how catholic and Coptic are related. Same root, but they were not in contact with each other for long period so had some drift.