Playing as Creek, cannot ever build a building (1.5 vanilla)

[paul.canniff]

I did try a few searches, didn't see this reported.

Running: EU4 1.5.0.0 (ea3d)

I have no mods. I DO have the Star and Crescent DLCs.

I played as Creek, with the Rise of the Ottomans historical start. I gave up about 1608, having Westernized and being the big gorilla of North America, because I cannot build ANY buildings.

At no point in the game was I able to build buildings; the 4 section banners are grey, and the popup text is "It is not possible to build anything from this category right now." In the "building" tab on provinces I own, all the buildings are grey. They also all seem to be non-western building art. This was the case before, during and after Westernizing.

My tech levels are 6-4-6, so there are definitely some unlocked buildings that should be available. I *did* reach all the basic tech levels before Westernizing, so maybe that blocks me from unlocking the buildings?

This is a new game, created yesterday, not an old saved game.

Here is the bare bones of the DxDiag, I am happy to paste it all if you think it helps. Doesn't seem like that kinda issue though.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/26/2014, 18:31:40
       Machine name: WESTINGHOUSE
   Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.131030-1505)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
       System Model: MS-7758
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 03/15/13 17:46:54 Ver: 04.06.05
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
             Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16334MB RAM
          Page File: 5911MB used, 12855MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode

I have saved, quit, restarted, etc. but nothing changes. I will now go get some screenshots, but I'm going to submit the new thread right now so I don't lose all this accidentally. All I really can show in the shots is that the building options are grey, anyway.

Thanks!

 

[paul.canniff]

Here is an image of the building menu.



Here is a province's building tab. I have the cash and power, and note that it recognizes I have the tech. But still grey.



These are taken in 1608, post-Westernized. Same issue exists in earlier years, too, and I have saved games from almost every decade from 1450 to 1608, so if anything in there would help, let me know.

 

[paul.canniff]

One last image, showing my tech info.



I have also completed one set of ideas (exploration) which completed the first two Nation ideas, if that matters.

 

[AndrewT]

Not a tech support issue so moved to main forum. If the community agrees it's likely to be a bug, post in Bug Reports please.

 

[Rayder19]

Have you tried manually building buildings in the provinces? This has happened to me to, but then I couldn't build units. Had to go into each province, hitting the build unit button to build them. After a little time I could build units using the shortcut menu again. Don't know what causes it though...

 

[Jorlaan]

Looks like one hell of a bug to me, not being able to build anything despite clearly meeting the requirements. I honestly have no idea what to do about it though.

 

[sinkingmist]

Does westernisation change your government from native council?
Because natives councils are forever banned from building non-native buildings (since 1.5).

 

[Elfryc]

One stupid question: do you have this DLC Conquest of Paradise?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

One stupid question: do you have this DLC Conquest of Paradise?

The opening post says vanilla, but the screenshots clearly indicate he's using CoP due to the nations in North America.

That said, either native or standard buildings would typically be available by that point, so it does seem to be a bug.

 

[SirStopp]

The opening post says vanilla, but the screenshots clearly indicate he's using CoP due to the nations in North America.

That said, either native or standard buildings would typically be available by that point, so it does seem to be a bug.

I think the nations are available in Vanilla, you just can't do any of the new Native American mechanics.

 

[Sir Leningrad]

The new natives com with free patch in vanilla. This may happen because he has not changed government. If not, it's a bug.

 

[caintheconfused]

I think the nations are available in Vanilla, you just can't do any of the new Native American mechanics.

The curious part is that while he wouldn't be able to build the native buildings without owning CoP(to my knowledge), the fact he cannot build the western buildings after westernization is puzzling. Looks like something worth posting on the bug reports forum with a full breakdown of details.

 

[grisamentum]

Does westernisation change your government from native council?
Because natives councils are forever banned from building non-native buildings (since 1.5).

Can't westernize unless you're reformed government.

 

[grisamentum]

I think the nations are available in Vanilla, you just can't do any of the new Native American mechanics.

Probably this.

Paradox games aren't really designed to be played without the paid DLCs. They always advertise that you can, but often core features are tied to DLC ownership (retinues in CK2, for example) and thus can't be used.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Probably this.

Paradox games aren't really designed to be played without the paid DLCs. They always advertise that you can, but often core features are tied to DLC ownership (retinues in CK2, for example) and thus can't be used.

You mean like removing "cancel annexation" as an option, but making support independence CoP feature only ? Or can you still cancel it in vanilla?

 

[alpreb]

Playing an Iroquois game with vanilla 1.5 and I can confirm that Westernisation does not change the government from Native Council to something more appropriate and you cannot build any buildings.

Can't westernize unless you're reformed government.

In vanilla 1.5, you can.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

My gosh, a westernized native council leading a federation would be disgusting if you are allowed to do that though ^_^.

 

[grisamentum]

Playing an Iroquois game with vanilla 1.5 and I can confirm that Westernisation does not change the government from Native Council to something more appropriate and you cannot build any buildings.


In vanilla 1.5, you can.

Oh, that makes sense, I guess. Reforming must be a COP-only native mechanic. What stupid way to half-cripple the content: allow players to play it, but only in a way that makes no sense at all. Great job, Paradox.

 

[Light85]

I had the same problem and quit my Cherokee game after realizing that I couldn't build anything after westernizing (at least I got the trails of tears achievement out of it)

100% bug in my opinion. Reforming is a CoP-only mechanic and it should never in any way interfere with the vanilla version. But in this case, it's prohibiting buildings from being built. Paradox probably needs to change the logic that disable/enable buildings to be different depending on the game version.