Played some CoP, and I have a strongly worded letter for PDX

[AnguyTheArcher]

Neither Quebec nor Canada were "densely populated". Whole French Canada, which was a huge territory had like 50 000 population. Brits down south had almost 2 million.

 

[Ritmas]

I couldn't read past this. Minnesota is a frozen wasteland in the winter. It's survivable in the spring/summer, even hot(!), but so is Alaska, Svalbard, and Siberia.

Thanks for the lol.

Also the times were colder back then, not even counting the technology of robes now

 

[Konair0s]

Also the times were colder back then, not even counting the technology of robes now

How colder?

 

[jakt]

Is that a decision or event? How the hell did it put you so close to western tech? I need to nerf the shit out of that.

All I had to do was press "reform government" in the Native tab. in order to reform the government you need two things to happen: you need to have got all the native tech (not hard, although i had amazeballs rulers actually) and you need to have a core next to the core of a western power.

it gives you 25 technologies (I don't know that it is a fixed amount) of the western neighbor, and changes you to an administrative monarchy


Oh! another thing. I was the only one who formed a federation. Then I vassalized the federation member. Then I stayed federation leader (+30% morale, +3diplo rep) for the entire time. I started annexing before I called it a night, after I had lost the whole Native interface.

 

[jakt]

In this context, arctic means inhospitable without modern comforts. There was a reason the Northern USA and Canada were so sparsely populated; it was probably due to the fact, that no one can live there. Anyway, the arctic circle is a more recent calculation to denote the area much farther north.

Well, in a game without seasons perhaps it would be fine. But we have severe winter to put on top of the area every year if we want to. Although I don't know if weather plays a role in colonization efforts (it should)

 

[grisamentum]

All I had to do was press "reform government" in the Native tab. in order to reform the government you need two things to happen: you need to have got all the native tech (not hard, although i had amazeballs rulers actually) and you need to have a core next to the core of a western power.

it gives you 25 technologies (I don't know that it is a fixed amount) of the western neighbor, and changes you to an administrative monarchy

Nah, it changes you to the government of the neighbor. I got feudal monarchy when I reformed off of England's colonial nation. And I got 22 techs; seems like its based on the relative tech difference.

 

[jakt]

Nah, it changes you to the government of the neighbor. I got feudal monarchy when I reformed off of England's colonial nation. And I got 22 techs; seems like its based on the relative tech difference.

we're you left being 6 tech behind the neighbor? Like i said, i had to wait until 1580 before I got to any decision to reform the government; the colonies were all south of my vision. when i stopped playing last night, spain had just founded a colony in nova scotia and i was nuzzled up next to the english colony in louisiana; i had colonies in florida and massachucetts myself (i was leaving a wide berth for the white people) and surrounding the great lakes. I think i was like 3/4/4 or something in tech before I took the decision. i can check later to be sure though, but i ended 6 behind. as for the government, okay, it changes you to theirs, and i think that's what it was, administrative monarchy. i assume that's a thing.

also, humorously, when i first encountered the english they had the opinion of being threatened of me. i assume this was this because of my 70,000 strong army of archers who would probably die to a regiment of english if i even tried

 

[grisamentum]

I do not live in "the arctic". Sure Minnesota might be cold sometimes but ARCTIC? no. that's beyond the wall up canada-way. Your tooltip says it's devoid of vegetation. Have you ever even been here? I'm sure its scandinavianesque aside from the lack of real mountains. I mean we have some small ones, but we have forest covering the north and plains and oak savanna in the south. We've got moose and wolves and bears and loons to serenade you to sleep. We've got giant rats known as deer all over the place we have so much vegetation. And we've got the wonderful boundary waters that is unlike anywhere else, and that's way up to the north, and it's just trees and water as far as the eye can see. This is not the arctic. Perhpas you can say, maybe around the great lakes (although just make it so they get harsher winters, it's not arctic there either!). But you went further and included the headwaters of the Mississippi, the province known as "Minnesota" in your arctic climate map.

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Finally I just played for like 8 hours straight, so, I mean, I like your game. But it's not arctic here >.<

I was going to make a similar complaint since there is a "mild winter" modifier in my homeplace of North Carolina, where it rarely snows at all. But it's worth noting that the world was actually quite a bit colder during the game's time period than it is now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

 

[grisamentum]

we're you left being 6 tech behind the neighbor? Like i said, i had to wait until 1580 before I got to any decision to reform the government; the colonies were all south of my vision. when i stopped playing last night, spain had just founded a colony in nova scotia and i was nuzzled up next to the english colony in louisiana; i had colonies in florida and massachucetts myself (i was leaving a wide berth for the white people) and surrounding the great lakes. I think i was like 3/4/4 or something in tech before I took the decision. i can check later to be sure though, but i ended 6 behind. as for the government, okay, it changes you to theirs, and i think that's what it was, administrative monarchy. i assume that's a thing.

also, humorously, when i first encountered the english they had the opinion of being threatened of me. i assume this was this because of my 70,000 strong army of archers who would probably die to a regiment of english if i even tried

Yeah, admin monarchy is a real and very profitable government. I was just sad I didn't get noble republic; I had expected that since I was a democracy, and pre-COP if you took the reform decision as a tribal democracy you got a republic.

Not sure if I was exactly 6 techs behind but something close to that, yeah.

 

[brifbates]

Yeah, admin monarchy is a real and very profitable government. I was just sad I didn't get noble republic; I had expected that since I was a democracy, and pre-COP if you took the reform decision as a tribal democracy you got a republic.

Not sure if I was exactly 6 techs behind but something close to that, yeah.

Well, given that filling out the native ideas costs you a cool 7500 mp and the decision makes all your buildings (at 50g+10mp each) go poof, I would hope you get something out of it beyond a government type change. 20+ techs may be a bit excessive though...

 

[mcmanusaur]

More of a collection of nitpicks and uncertainties than a letter.... which is your prerogative, but the title is sort of misleading. Oh well.

 

[Darsara]

Neither Quebec nor Canada were "densely populated". Whole French Canada, which was a huge territory had like 50 000 population. Brits down south had almost 2 million.

I'm talking about the 250km stretch of river where all of those roughly seventy-thousand people (by the end of the French period) lived, not all of French Canada. I know most of it was sparsely populated, and it still rather is; I should know, I live here.

 

[InnocentIII]

Dude, you live in Minnesota, which is Indian for "how @*$^ing cold is it going to get?" I don't get calling you devoid of vegetation though. That's New Jersey. I live in Upstate NY, which is Indian for "so, where are your kids moving to?"

Arctic sounds about right for hostile siege treatment, however. Would you want to sit outside and besiege you all winter long?