Playable on laptops...

[unmerged(34273)]

Will rome work on a laptop with Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipset?
Or will it be like eu3 which starts fine but gives me a blue map.....

 

[Myth]

Given that it is based on the same game engine as EU3, the same problems are very likely.

 

[unmerged(21085)]

Hmmm, I can run EU3: NA perfectly on my laptop with Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family. But sadly, any less advanced will surely not work. I was very luckly that I got just high enough for it.

Cheers

Sappy

 

[SirGrotius]

System requirements can be found here: http://www.paradoxplaza.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=281&Itemid=226

 

[Chaingun]

Would depend more on associated system memory and CPU + graphics card rather than chipset I'd think. (Unless there is a specific problem with that chipset.)

 

[hildoceras]

(Unless there is a specific problem with that chipset.)

there has been with intel chipset for EU3 (until 950 included if my memory is correct)

 

[Gwalcmai]

Would depend more on associated system memory and CPU + graphics card rather than chipset I'd think. (Unless there is a specific problem with that chipset.)

Intel chipsets <965 have a very limited implementation of pixel shader 2, IIRC.

By the way, anyone else getting the system requirements list (linked above) formatted like this:

System requirements

*
VISTA COMPATIBLE
* Microsoft Windows XP/2000
* 1.9 Ghz Intel Pen*tium or similar
* AMD 512mb
* RAM Direct X 9.0c
* 128mb compatible video card & support for pixelshader 2.0

Really confusing. "AMD 512mb" and "RAM Direct X 9.0c", I mean.

 

[unmerged(34273)]

Intel chipsets <965 have a very limited implementation of pixel shader 2, IIRC.

By the way, anyone else getting the system requirements list (linked above) formatted like this:


Really confusing. "AMD 512mb" and "RAM Direct X 9.0c", I mean.

Well the problem is the chipset. However the shipset emulates pixelshader 2.0 by software so it can play several games like civ 4 that demands it with little problem. So I just wanted to make sure i dont buy a game I cant play

 

[unmerged(83754)]

I was not able to play EU3 on my laptop my chipset is not good enough so I dont think I will be able to play for awhile. Ill have to sit and watch you all enjoy... again....

 

[SirGrotius]

Intel chipsets <965 have a very limited implementation of pixel shader 2, IIRC.

By the way, anyone else getting the system requirements list (linked above) formatted like this:


Really confusing. "AMD 512mb" and "RAM Direct X 9.0c", I mean.

I did a double take on that, too. I'll let someone know. Thanks!

 

[unmerged(12995)]

I was not able to play EU3 on my laptop my chipset is not good enough so I dont think I will be able to play for awhile. Ill have to sit and watch you all enjoy... again....

Same thing for me, sad news!

I guess it's time to pry Rome:Total War from my younger brother's cold dead fingers and play it at last. And wait for a new computer next year!

 

[ElQuapo]

Anyone know if I can play the game with "Intel 855GM video chipset" ?

I can't seem to find out if it supports Pixelshader 2.0.

I don't care if it runs slow etc. - I just hope I can play it

 

[AndrewT]

Assuming it has the identical requirements in this area to EU3, then you will have the same problem you have with EU3. As stated above the Intel chipset must be 965 or greater to fully support DirectX 9 in hardware and thus do PixelShader 2 properly.

 

[ElQuapo]

Assuming it has the identical requirements in this area to EU3, then you will have the same problem you have with EU3. As stated above the Intel chipset must be 965 or greater to fully support DirectX 9 in hardware and thus do PixelShader 2 properly.

Thanks for the reply, but does this mean it won't run at all, or that it will run slow (software emulation of pixelshader) or with minor faults?

I am not quite sure exactly

 

[AndrewT]

Assuming Rome has the same requirements as EU3 it will run slowly and the map screens will be all blue. For EU3 there is a user-created workaround for the blueness, but it limits you to playing on only one of the maps, the terrain one.

 

[InnocentIII]

I'm guessing that the speed issues will be similar?

EU3 ran too slow to be playable on my laptop (radeon mobile, "integrated" video memory, i.e. none, really)(it was borderline if I focused on Australia or other terra incognita). NA improved things, however. It's not great, but it's definitely worth playing when a desktop is not available.

I don't expect any real information at this point - they're not done yet - but NA speed on mediocre systems would be very nice instead of EU3's original speed

 

[jdrou]

Anyone know if I can play the game with "Intel 855GM video chipset" ?

I can't seem to find out if it supports Pixelshader 2.0.

I don't care if it runs slow etc. - I just hope I can play it

This will not work at all. Based on EU3 NA the 945 (GMA 950) can be marginally playable with a graphics mod and 965 (GMA X3100) is fine out of the box but 855 (Extreme II) does not support pixel shaders at all.

 

[ElQuapo]

This will not work at all. Based on EU3 NA the 945 (GMA 950) can be marginally playable with a graphics mod and 965 (GMA X3100) is fine out of the box but 855 (Extreme II) does not support pixel shaders at all.

This sucks, have been looking forward to this game for months - there is no way I can afford a new computer any time soon

I guess that is the price you have to pay for using a laptop instead of a desktop where you could just buy a new graphics card.

I don't understand why EU3 and Rome need these specs - no offence, but the 3D graphics are not exactly great looking compared to Medal of Honour type games, which run flawlessly on my setup. I actually think EU2/HOI2 has a better overall look and feel than EU3.

Anyway, time to start saving for at new computer

 

[jdrou]

EU3 line does not use 3D primarily for appearance; it uses it to offload graphics functions from the CPU which requires programmable pixel shaders which older graphics chips do not have. (3D is also important for marketing as well as making it easier to support many resolutions instead of just 1-3 like earlier Paradox games. I think the easier map-modding of EU3 is also because of the 3D.)

EDIT: What laptop model do you have? A few of them do have the ability to upgrade graphics to a limited extent.

 

[ElQuapo]

There may still be hope for us users with Intel Onboard Graphics.

Apperently it is possible to software emulate Pixelshader 2.0

It will probably run slow, but might work.

Here is some info :
http://mediakey.dk/~cc/software-based-renderer-emulated-pixel-shader-20/

Has anyone tried this with EU3?

I will definitely test it myself with the Rome demo when it comes out - would be great if it works