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Hm, they have at least two castles, and a titular Duchy. So in theory, maybe granting them a county via safegame edit would work?

EDIT: But don't forget, this is no Assassins Creed or other more fantastic stuff. You will be a minor annoyance between huge battling entities (BYZ, Seljuks, Fatimids, and sooner or later mongols), and will probably get crushed pretty soon....
 

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They are a Holy Order and most if not all of their leaders are lowborn - both Holy Orders and lowborns are unplayable.
 

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They are a Holy Order and most if not all of their leaders are lowborn - both Holy Orders and lowborns are unplayable.

Holy Orders aren't unplayable, but they do need a bit of jumping though loops to get to be playable :)

1) find Holy order with leader same Culture/religion as you (or make them happy enough for you)

2) give them a spot of land in your De Jure territory

3) offer vassalation to them

4) give them a duchy

5) Wait for them to make feudal duchy their primary title

6) kill them inheriting what titles they have (including ownership of the Holy Order)
 

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Any title that's feudal is playable, no matter if it has land or not. A good example is the Varangian Guard.

Varangian Guard is playable because it start´s as a vassal of the Byzantine Emperor.
 

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Not because of that.
It's playable because it's a feudal title that's above the rank of count. You can make a titular empire whose emperor holds no land and still play it.
 

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Not because of that.
It's playable because it's a feudal title that's above the rank of count. You can make a titular empire whose emperor holds no land and still play it.

You can play as the Varangians? This is news to me. I had thought that we were limited to hereditary titles count and above (thus no republics or theocracies).
 

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mercenaries (and holy orders) became weird at some recent point. you can play as the VG even though they're landless; hilariously, you can actually use them to gain land since you have free troops at your disposal.