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bkuepers

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My question is simple. Does the planning bonus for battle plans apply to give you higher organization and fight longer, or allow you to do more damage. I found the following quote, but it seemed a little vague.

"Units fighting according to battle plans receive a bonus to combat abilities, compared to those you manually order about."
 

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If you have a test in a week, you have time to study.

If you get a test right now, you would not have the time to prepare, I hope this is getting you the point of view I believe Paradox is trying to give us... so you know what kiddos? Study<3.
 
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I also think it is a combat bonus.

If you have a test in a week, you have time to study.

If you get a test right now, you would not have the time to prepare, I hope this is getting you the point of view I believe Paradox is trying to give us... so you know what kiddos? Study<3.

Nice analogy, but the OP had a different question.
 

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My rifle will still hit with the same amount of damage if I'm prepared or not, but we as a group could do more damage if the attack was coordinated. (Damage)
or
We would be able to attack or defend longer if we had a great plan. (Organization)

Either could make sense really.
 
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Planning the operation, exercising troops in objectives (Eben Emael), drawing up plans and revising them, takes time, the longer you train, the more prepared you are.

So exactly what bonus does that give this is quantifiable in game? Sounds like you are saying organization...
 

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I think logically it should would be organization, and perhaps attrition, that would receive the bonus. I could see attrition bonus as well because men could prepare with spare tires, fixed or replaced boots, cleaned guns, weather clothing out and ready, and more time for R&R.

I don't see much for a damage bonus though, especially when in reality all plans get thrown out the window during a battle. Officers are just more likely to adapt to new situations when given time to prep.
 

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My question is simple. Does the planning bonus for battle plans apply to give you higher organization and fight longer, or allow you to do more damage. I found the following quote, but it seemed a little vague.

"Units fighting according to battle plans receive a bonus to combat abilities, compared to those you manually order about."

In HOI3 terms a combat bonus is a multiplier to your soft attack, hard attack and breakthrough (on offense) / Defense (when defending).

So if your divison has 100 in soft attack
A general with level 5 (50%)
A general with offensive trait (10%)
Attacking a forest (-15%)
Planning bonus (50%)

Your divisions effective soft attack is then 100 * (100% + 50% + 10% -15% + 50%) = 100 * 195% = 195 soft attack.

The defender also gets planning bonus, dig in bonus, general bounuses, air superiority bonus, fort bonus.
My guess is defending in HOI4 is much easier than in HOI3 meaning a offensive planning bonus is a must.

HOI3 had some mechanic that bonues did not just add up, but had some weird math. Dont take the above serious. It is just an example.

Planning bonus does not increase organisation. It is merely a multiplyier to your weapons stats and ability to avoid getting hit by opponents shots.
 
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