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I've been crazy impressed by how quickly people are getting them, particularly your modified ships SchwarzKatze.

Here's an unmodified one, and I'd be surprised after the Settsu if clues were needed, but just in case, the range of the main armament of this ship was 27,000 yards, and it could put them out at 4-5 rounds per minute.

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10 guns of smaller caliber, from the range, 6" guns. Got to be Italian CL Abruzzi class. Either Duca degli Abruzzi or Guiseppe Garibaldi. Which harbour is she leaving from? Looks familiar
 
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Aye, that's the one - that's Giuseppe Garibaldi, leaving Malta in 1946. The photo didn't say Malta, but Valetta harbour is my favourite map to free flight on War Thunder (and Birds of Steel before that), so wasn't too hard to pick, although I confirmed by Googling the harbour to check, and here's the pic that confirmed it beyond a doubt for me, and another WW2 warship to boot (although this is another class built during the period, rather than in operation at the start). The clue is "What do this class and Atlanta have in common" (although I'm sure this won't take too long at all :))?

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HMS Dido or Phoebe, before refit? Judging by the DP/large caliber AA instead of another main gun between the two guns and the bridge.

Edit: they were both in Malta before refit in April and May 1941, but from Googling it seems to be Phoebe

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What they have in common is being small cruisers dedicated to the role of destroyer leader/AA-ship. Atlanta was at least technically built as a destroyer leader - hence her high speed and torpedo tubes - but the USN soon discovered she could paint the sky with 5" shells as well. After a brief stint escorting convoys and fighting battleships (unsuccessfully) off Guadalcanal, the Atlantas were mostly kept in company with the carriers and the torpedo tubes were removed. The later ships of this type took off the 5" twin mounts on the sides. Like the Didos, they could pile 3 turrets high - quite a sight in profile.

The British first converted some of their WW1-era 'C'-class cruisers to an AA role and found them very useful. The Dido-class (have to be careful with that spelling) were intended to mount 5xtwin 5.25" dual-purpose mounts (same as on the King George V-class battleships) on a very small displacement - around 5500 tons to start with, though like every other ship of the war they got heavier.

Shortages and delays in providing the 5.25" mounts meant they were completed in a variety of ways. Some had the C turret replaced by a 4" AA mount, some had 4xtwin 4.5" AA mounts (a better AA gun but not much punch in a surface engagement) instead of the 5.25". The follow-on class (Bellona) basically left off the C turret (for stability and weight) and added more light AA. Very good ships - very useful - were in a number of actions and acquitted themselves well, but 5 - half the original class - were lost or so damaged they were condemned.

This is a fine example of 'knowing when to stop'. Instead of building (and risking) a 10,000-ton cruiser for every mission the RN built a 5,500-ton cruiser of limited but real value - very efficient.


BTW, the photo caption is, "HMS%20Phoebe%20Arriving%20at%20Valetta%20Harbour,%20Malta%201949".
 
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Love your work, the both of you, thanks for all the extra info Director :). It is indeed the Phoebe (as the caption indicated - but I didn't think anyone would need it). Phoebe actually still only had four turrets after the refit as well - if I'd been plotting (as opposed to getting a ship from looking for Valetta Harbour pics) it would have been a good one to at least add some uncertainty.

This'll be my last pic for tonight, so a tougher one (but others should deffo feel free to post more as previous pics are guessed). This vessel was 196 feet long (pp)....

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Hmm... It kindof looks like a Dutch build submarine. So I will ask my question: Was it build in the Netherlands?

Good question, but afraid the answer is no. You're on the right continent though....
 
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It's something :p

Well I will ask a followup question:
Did it belong to a major nation?

Another good question - it did not, but it was built by a major....
 

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Are we allowed to ask more questions or not? If we are then mine is: Was it constructed in Nantes France?

Absolutely, ask as many as you'd like, ask a few together if you want to :).

In regards to it being built in France, though, the answer is no (although the French did build subs for a few nations between the wars, so it's a good guess :)).
 

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Axe, I know this is a bit off-topic. But the previous mention of Atlanta led me to recreate it in Rule the Waves - surprisingly successfully. Though mine makes only 29 knots it took down a German light cruiser armed with 6-6" guns. They let me get in close, hahaha. :)

Sorry for going OT. Won't happen again.

So... was the sub built in Italy?

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Axe, I know this is a bit off-topic. But the previous mention of Atlanta led me to recreate it in Rule the Waves - surprisingly successfully. Though mine makes only 29 knots it took down a German light cruiser armed with 6-6" guns. They let me get in close, hahaha. :)

Sorry for going OT. Won't happen again.

So... was the sub built in Italy?

USS_Havana_zpssmmreqca.jpg


Love your work :). Picked up RTW today, going to start playing it after I've finished my current EU4 playthrough, and am looking forward to it (although I expect my first game to be somewhat humbling). No probs with a brief diversion as well, particularly a ship-related one - with RTW the technology doesn't go as far as Atlanta class does it, so you can be forgiven for not making the same speed :). And yes, the sub was built in Italy, you're getting close....

italian built submarine?

Yes :).