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Axe99

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The Courbet indeed it is, nice work all :p). I'd say it's time to have a gander at Phrox's most interesting pic :). The shape of those turrets has a British look to them, but that uniform doesn't look to be RN. I guess a good question would be is it a British ship?
 

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The Courbet indeed it is, nice work all :p). I'd say it's time to have a gander at Phrox's most interesting pic :). The shape of those turrets has a British look to them, but that uniform doesn't look to be RN. I guess a good question would be is it a British ship?

It is not British. Or British built for that matter,
 

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How about this little ship ?

Agano__class_bow_full.jpg
 
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It is not British. Or British built for that matter,

Hmmmm...American or Italian then?

How about this little ship ?

Definitely Japanese, but if we couldn't tell that from the pic we're definitely not trying hard enough :). It's not one of their schmexy funnels, but it still looks fairly modern, don't have my book with me but one of their more modern CLs is my guess, will look it up later if no-one's picked it from memory.
 

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The Japanese ship is an Agano-class light cruiser. Japan didn't build any true light cruiser during the treaty period, so having turrets is a tell-tale clue. Triple->Ōyodo, Mixed double turret and shielded single->Yūbari, All double->Agano-class.
 
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The Japanese ship is an Agano-class light cruiser. Japan didn't build any true light cruiser during the treaty period, so having turrets is a tell-tale clue. Triple->Ōyodo, Mixed double turret and shielded single->Yūbari, All double->Agano-class.

you got it :D. As a Reward, here is an image of Sakawa 4th in the class. Note the camouflage on the No.1 Turret, and bridge superstructure.
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It didn't serve in either the USN or the RM.

Yes, that wasn't quite what you asked....

It wasn't indeed ;). I'd be guessing then, that if I asked "Was it built by the US?" you'd likely say yes? (I'm pretty sure the RM didn't build any BBs for others that served in the the period, although I know they built CLs, DDs and smaller - but wouldn't be the first time my memory had gone astray).
 

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I don't know if this one has made an appearance yet, but if there are no objections...
 
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This is the boat I'd choose for all kinds of combat, even beach landings like D-day. This is what the Russian Red Fleet consisted of.

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It wasn't indeed ;). I'd be guessing then, that if I asked "Was it built by the US?" you'd likely say yes? (I'm pretty sure the RM didn't build any BBs for others that served in the the period, although I know they built CLs, DDs and smaller - but wouldn't be the first time my memory had gone astray).

My answer would indeed be yes ;)
 

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I don't know if this one has made an appearance yet, but if there are no objections...

Most definitely not :). Although I'm not sure what it is, those long barrels and bridge structure look fairly unique, but nothing's coming to mind right now. Italian perhaps? (Just because the Italians liked them some long barrels, I'm afraid my guess is no more refined than that).

My answer would indeed be yes ;)

:) That makes it a good deal easier - only two ships using guns that big made by the US and not serving with them, and it looks a bit modern to be the Kilkis, so how about the Rivadavia?
 

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:) That makes it a good deal easier - only two ships using guns that big made by the US and not serving with them, and it looks a bit modern to be the Kilkis, so how about the Rivadavia?

Well, if we're being specific, it's her sister Moreno, but yep the two Argentine battleships were the only dreadnoughts built in the US for another nation, thanks to the very low bid put in by the Fore River Shipbuilding Company which lead to the Argentine government picking the US rather than the UK as the builders. Her 12" guns were a slightly modified version of those used on the Wyoming and Arkansas, hence my original clue.

No idea on CV10's ship. Not one I recognise at all.
 
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Well, if we're being specific, it's her sister Moreno, but yep the two Argentine battleships were the only dreadnoughts built in the US for another nation, thanks to the very low bid put in by the Fore River Shipbuilding Company which lead to the Argentine government picking the US rather than the UK as the builders. Her 12" guns were a slightly modified version of those used on the Wyoming and Arkansas, hence my original clue.

Great ship :). I remember when I was going through the Argentine Navy's ships, they were a bit cheeky when they got the bids on those vessels - caused a bit of controversy if I recall correctly. Just looked it up - they got nations to put in designs, and then pinched the best bits of each design and then gave it to the lowest bidder, or something like that. Very creative work by the Argentines, but got a few noses out of joint!
 

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Most definitely not :). Although I'm not sure what it is, those long barrels and bridge structure look fairly unique, but nothing's coming to mind right now. Italian perhaps? (Just because the Italians liked them some long barrels, I'm afraid my guess is no more refined than that).

She's not Italian. Don't think major powers on this one ;)
 

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Was the ship outfitted with its intended weapon? Those look like big barbettes with small turrets, and they don't look like AA guns either.
 

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Was the ship outfitted with its intended weapon? Those look like big barbettes with small turrets, and they don't look like AA guns either.
The ship was designed in the early thirties and her country's navy had a bit of a habit of giving their ships lighter armaments than other navies. She was also intended to be a destroyer leader, due to political reasons.
 
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She's not Italian. Don't think major powers on this one ;)

The ship was designed in the early thirties and her country's navy had a bit of a habit of giving their ships lighter armaments than other navies. She was also intended to be a destroyer leader, due to political reasons.

Intriguing :). There weren't too many non-major navies with modern light cruiser/destroyer leaders built in the 1930s, but I'm still perplexed. The closest I can find having a gander at Conways is the Alfonso/Almirante Cervera class, but I'm not very confident, but may as well put it out there :).
 

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The gun barrels mounted very close together and the big fat stack make it look Italian but it is Dutch, the light cruiser Tromp I think. The pic makes her look very large but in fact they weighed in at about 3500 tons.
 
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