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. Head's a bit fuzzy at the moment, so this is a repeat, but which repeat is it? .
. Head's a bit fuzzy at the moment, so this is a repeat, but which repeat is it? .
Pick the ship
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I'm sure somewhere in this monstrosity of a thread this has been mentioned, but we are all aware that google image search is probably being used here? You can literally reverse look up every ship and get the name in two seconds.
For that reason I know that's the HMS victorious.
For that reason I know that's the HMS victorious.
Aye (although there are a few pics you can't do that to - I check whether the images I post are Google-image-searchable for an easy answer or not), it's more a case of whether people want to do the thinking or get an easy answer
. I could start more radically cropping images that were also on the web (which is the vast majority of 'em) to remove the search option if people preferred?
Actually cropping and cutting doesn't do much to hamper Google's abilities to conduct reverse search. My first picture of Settsu was actually a digitally colored photo which had all colors' saturation reduced to zero to make it B&W, adjusted the brightness curve so that the components of the deck looks distinct instead of almost uniformly gray, cut the edges and a chunk on the left to remove the caption and a junk in the background, then blurred the ship's name and the flag. Google still finds the original without difficulty.
I've just done a bunch of tests, and you're dead right - it guessed all of the below with no trouble at all (I tried a different ship for some tests, as the composition of the shot of Victorious was relatively unique, but even for a bog-standard cropped side view of a destroyer that's been put through filter hell it gets it. I wouldn't want to distort the images in any event. I guess the only way around it is to use shots not already on the web, and there are a few in Conways, or relying on everyone in the thread not to take advantage of Google
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It can even see through this:
It an even see through this
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It can even pick this,
For example, this one will separate the Google Image Searches out . The clue is it had 4-inch main armament....
. The clue is it had 4-inch main armament....
BTW, I have a picture for "Pick the ship: learn to read edition" that requires some convoluted knowledge to understand what's going on, so I'll just leave it in the spoiler. The answer I'm looking for is which ship is this and what's written there.
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Whats kind of funny is the very first answer in this thread was clearly reverse searched. He italicized Gneisenau in his answer but not the Scharnhorst. If you reverse look up that ship this is the first page you get
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/germany/ger_bb_scharnhorst.htm
And on that page the first time you see Scharnhorst it is not italicized. And the first time you see Gneisenau it is.
Literally copy pasted.
Scharnhorst
Gneisenau
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/germany/ger_bb_scharnhorst.htm
And on that page the first time you see Scharnhorst it is not italicized. And the first time you see Gneisenau it is.
Literally copy pasted.
Scharnhorst
Gneisenau
Just like people can choose to exploit the AI in HoI3, they can choose to take the easy way out when looking at ships - there's no law against it, although it would personally take a lot of the enjoyment away for me
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When this thread started, I didn't even know that image search existed, but I do now and I hope that people are not using it to pick ships. It can be frustrating but enlightening to look up a dozen different ship classes before you find the one that matches the pic and any clues.
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BTW, I have a picture for "Pick the ship: learn to read edition" that requires some convoluted knowledge to understand what's going on, so I'll just leave it in the spoiler. The answer I'm looking for is which ship is this and what's written there.
I'm afraid my Japanese is pretty much non-existent (my sister went there once and brought me back a deck of cards with a Kanji and translation on each, and I learned a few for larks, but that was a long time ago, and it was general tourist stuff - I'm assuming the Japanese didn't take to painting "Where is the train station?" on the back of there ships
).As for the ship, it's an interesting pic. I presume that's the stern, but the superstructure looks too close to it, and way too close to have a Y turret (although it wouldn't be the first, second or third time I'd taken a punt and been wrong
). Some kind of transport? Is a great pic .Aye, me neither - which means this thread hasn't just taught us about ships, bonus
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Could it be a Novik-class destroyer back in the days of Imperial Russian Navy?For example, this one will separate the Google Image Searches out
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It doesn't look like any of the British, US, French and German destroyers with 4", and looks way too classical to be DE, frigates or sloops.
It's all in hiragana, the main point there is to demonstrate how drastically different Japanese spelling was in Ye Olde Daies. (i.e. WWII) It'd be much more appropriate in a Japanese language thread if we have one in the OT.I'm afraid my Japanese is pretty much non-existent (my sister went there once and brought me back a deck of cards with a Kanji and translation on each, and I learned a few for larks, but that was a long time ago, and it was general tourist stuff - I'm assuming the Japanese didn't take to painting "Where is the train station?" on the back of there ships
As for the ship, it's an interesting pic. I presume that's the stern, but the superstructure looks too close to it, and way too close to have a Y turret (although it wouldn't be the first, second or third time I'd taken a punt and been wrong
The ship had no turrets though, they're all shielded deck guns.
It's definitely old, but it's not Russian, although a Novik isn't a bad guess. It pre-dates WW1, but not by much, and they weren't discarded until after WW2....
So it would be something more like "Train station, where is it?"
. I'm at a bit of a loss as to the ship, even knowing it's Japanese and probably older than that destroyer. Maybe the Yodo?
That means its not a destroyer used by Britain, as their last pre WW1 class was the M, and the ships of that class constructed before WW1 started were sold for scrap in 1921.
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Aye, quite right - the destroyer was neither built nor used by the British.
It looks like all the Japanese pre WW1 destroyers were out of service prior to 1945, and they used 4.7" guns anyway so we can rule them out.
The Greeks had a number of pre WW1 destroyers, but we can rule out the British built ones and the German built ones had 3" guns rather than 4" so we can rule them out too.
It looks like the Italians only had 1 destroyer class with 4" guns and only 1 ship of that class survived the war, but the pics don't seem to match so I think we can rule them out too.
The Germans had a few WW1 torpedo boats, but they seemed to use 3.5" or 4.1" guns so I'm going to rule them out too.
Every statement here is correct - however, I will say that the ships were built by one of the nations you mention above...
Actually not that old. It's spelt with three kana so it's a 3 mora name, but not 3 syllables… unless one uses spelling pronunciation as given in the picture.So it would be something more like "Train station, where is it?"
No IJN fans here?
Actually not that old. It's spelt with three kana so it's a 3 mora name, but not 3 syllables… unless one uses spelling pronunciation as given in the picture.
No IJN fans here?
Is it a light cruiser? Feels a tiny but too large for a destroyer, but too small to be anything else except perhaps one of their very old coastal defence ships/armoured cruisers? Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against the IJN (and some of their ship designs are great, and how schmexy are those funnels?), but my great uncle was a gunner on Victorious, so have always had a softer spot for the RN.
It's a problem of perspective, the mast wasn't that close to the stern as it may seem.