Pick the ship

[Smiffus]

What? No ships to guess? Let me try one.

Should be an easy one

 

[jcd000]

It is the Hood in Jan '41. Churchill makes it easy.

 

[Lexis]

It should be the Hood

 

[Smiffus]

Indeed Shot on 17th of January 1941 in Rosyth

http://ww2today.com/17-january-1941-winston-churchill-harry-hopkins

 

[jamesd]

It is the Hood in Jan '41. Churchill makes it easy.

It should be the Hood

I'm glad you guys got it so quickly - I was looking up pictures of QE & Revenge class battleships and even looked at the Renown until I worked out the picture was on the stern of the ship. I always overlook the Hood to start with - maybe because its a single ship rather than part of a class.

 

[jamesd]

This ship was in service at the start of the HOI timeframe but not at its end. It was never at war.

 

[Axe99]

Great ships all . And this one has to be a destroyer . A very old one at that. British?

 

[PhroX]

The raised stern looks a bit odd. Don't know of any WW1-era British destroyers that had that, though I'm not going to claim to be an expert by any means.

 

[Smiffus]

Was thinking it was one of the german Auxiliary Cruisers, but no.

 

[Antediluvian Monster]

And this one has to be a destroyer

I'd say a small 1890s cruiser (of British construction probably). Old destroyers did not have that kind of hull. Also note the mixed battery.

 

[Lexis]

Is this a casemat between the Bridge and the first smokestack?

 

[jamesd]

Great ships all . And this one has to be a destroyer . A very old one at that. British?

The raised stern looks a bit odd. Don't know of any WW1-era British destroyers that had that, though I'm not going to claim to be an expert by any means.

Was thinking it was one of the german Auxiliary Cruisers, but no.

I'd say a small 1890s cruiser (of British construction probably). Old destroyers did not have that kind of hull. Also note the mixed battery.

The ship was not constructed by Britain.

 

[Axe99]

The ship was not constructed by Britain.

Italian then? They had a few vessels in service in 1936 that they scrapped in the late 30s, and had some pretty old ships floating around (as well as some nice, new shiny ones ). I wasn't looking closely, but that raised stern Phrox pointed out is unusual.

Edit: Although, from the design, it has a distinctly German feel to it - maybe one of the rather old German torpedo boats they had kicking around because of the armistice?

 

[jamesd]

Is this a casemat between the Bridge and the first smokestack?

Italian then? They had a few vessels in service in 1936 that they scrapped in the late 30s, and had some pretty old ships floating around (as well as some nice, new shiny ones ). I wasn't looking closely, but that raised stern Phrox pointed out is unusual.

Edit: Although, from the design, it has a distinctly German feel to it - maybe one of the rather old German torpedo boats they had kicking around because of the armistice?

I don't believe there is a casemate between the bridge and the first smokestack.

The ship was not constructed in Italy or Germany.

 

[Smiffus]

The greek cruiser Elli looks a bit like it. And it was sunk in peacetime by the italians, but I'm not totally convinced comparing the pictures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_cruiser_Elli_(1912)

 

[jamesd]

The greek cruiser Elli looks a bit like it. And it was sunk in peacetime by the italians, but I'm not totally convinced comparing the pictures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_cruiser_Elli_(1912)

That's the one. The title for the pic I used said was that it was still the Fei Hung at the time, on sea trials in 1913. My pic looks to be at a different angle to the one on the ship's wiki page.

 

[bcoop1701]

Really? Those pictures don't seem to match. The first definitely seems to have a raised poop deck and the fore and aft main gun turrets seem to be about level with each other in height. The picture from wiki for Elli doesn't seem to have those features. Also, the smoke stacks for the two pictures look like they are different distances from the bridge

Edit - The main guns don't have turrets in the first picture, they have gun shields but they still seem to be about the same height.

 

[Smiffus]

Really? Those pictures don't seem to match. The first definitely seems to have a raised poop deck and the fore and aft main gun turrets seem to be about level with each other in height. The picture from wiki for Elli doesn't seem to have those features.

Edit - The main guns don't have turrets in the first picture, they have gun shields but they still seem to be about the same height.

I'm guessing that the reconstruction in 1920 changed that.

From the wikipedia: In 1920 she underwent a reconstruction in France, along with the armored cruiser Georgios Averof. In that reconstruction she obtained modern anti-aircraft armament and the equipment to carry and lay 100 sea mines.

 

[PhroX]

Really? Those pictures don't seem to match. The first definitely seems to have a raised poop deck and the fore and aft main gun turrets seem to be about level with each other in height. The picture from wiki for Elli doesn't seem to have those features.

Missing the second mast too. It's possible they changed when the ship underwent it's reconstruction, but I'm not convinced they're the same.

Anyway, while we resolve this puzzle, I'll throw up another pic. For those that don't feel like just searching for the image and need a clue, this was the only ship class to use these guns:

 

[jamesd]

Really? Those pictures don't seem to match. The first definitely seems to have a raised poop deck and the fore and aft main gun turrets seem to be about level with each other in height. The picture from wiki for Elli doesn't seem to have those features. Also, the smoke stacks for the two pictures look like they are different distances from the bridge

Edit - The main guns don't have turrets in the first picture, they have gun shields but they still seem to be about the same height.

The ship also underwent major alterations in France from 1925-27. This included giving it a minelaying ability so its possible the raised poop deck was eliminated at that time.