Definitely not a Deutschland class vessel, no (when he said "well known vessel", my first thought was the Graf Spee).
That could absolutely be the Bismarck, or her sister Tirpitz.
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That could absolutely be the Bismarck, or her sister Tirpitz.
Hmmm. Hood had a more graceful clipper bow; King George V had an almost straight stem with no bullnose ring and had anchor eyes on the side. I'll go with Bismarck or Tirpitz; given the top photo it's likely Bismarck.
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I'll bow to others having more expertise but if that top picture is from the Battle of the Denmark Strait then am I wrong in thinking that a German ship from the English view point should be moving from right to left instead of from left to right?
So, either that picture is not from that battle (which would have been my mistake since I brought it up) or that has to be an English ship, correct?
So, either that picture is not from that battle (which would have been my mistake since I brought it up) or that has to be an English ship, correct?
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Not necessarily, the photograph may have been 'reversed' at some stage,a common present day error.
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It is indeed the Bismarck, but not at the Denmark Straight (there is a great shot of Bismarck from Prince Eugen at the Denmark straight, but it was a tad too clear, and I think would have taken about 30 seconds for you knowledgable folk to spot) - I'm a big fan of the lines of the ship (and I know it's a repeat of the class, we had Tirpitz earlier, but there's no rules against repeats 
). Looked through a lot of photos to find one obscure enough, but with enough (in this case combined) so it wasn't ridiculous, and found a shot from this site, of Bismarck during it's last battle.
http://www.kbismarck.com/bismarck-last-battle.html
Here's Rodney from the same page/battle, just because.
Here's my first "I wonder if this is too obscure" shot.... (I went with the "yes it's too obscure"!)
Here's that shot from Prince Eugen (or at least one of them)
). Looked through a lot of photos to find one obscure enough, but with enough (in this case combined) so it wasn't ridiculous, and found a shot from this site, of Bismarck during it's last battle.http://www.kbismarck.com/bismarck-last-battle.html
Here's Rodney from the same page/battle, just because
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Here's my first "I wonder if this is too obscure" shot.... (I went with the "yes it's too obscure"!)
Here's that shot from Prince Eugen (or at least one of them)
Sorry for double-posting, but didn't want the 'new' ship to get lost in the pics above). This is another well-known ship, so another obscure-ish shot, although as it's an easy one, the clue for this ship will be "It's American" . Bonus points if you can pick the actual vessel (not easy from the picture, but I doubt there'll be too many colour pictures of this class from this angle, so I'd expect more than a few of you will have seen this before ).
. Bonus points if you can pick the actual vessel (not easy from the picture, but I doubt there'll be too many colour pictures of this class from this angle, so I'd expect more than a few of you will have seen this before ).
Sorry for double-posting, but didn't want the 'new' ship to get lost in the pics above). This is another well-known ship, so another obscure-ish shot, although as it's an easy one, the clue for this ship will be "It's American"
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It was the "It's American" that gave it away, wasn't it?
. Nice work .Here's another one, the clue is that this vessel's main armament was comprised of eight 5.9 inch guns....
Not a bad guess (particularly given the size of the guns), but it's not the one.
It was the "It's American" that gave it away, wasn't it?
Here's another one, the clue is that this vessel's main armament was comprised of eight 5.9 inch guns....
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Looks Spanish, is that right? That would narrow the search!
I'm still confused over the 5.9" part. AFAIK only Germany ever employed 150mm naval guns (at least from 20th century on)
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.It is indeed, nice work
. It was based on a UK design so has some UK lines to it, so the clue was designed to help people not fall for that, although the turrets themselves don't look that British.The Germans are definitely the main proponents of it, but in my research for the mod I'm putting together, it looks like the Dutch were fairly big on 150mm guns, and there are a few other random older vessels (early 20th century) where they pop up as well (the Turkish Hamidieh, built in UK in 1904 is the only one I can see with a quick scan).
That said, I may have to apologise for that particularly clue being off the mark. Wikipedia has the guns as 152mm, and my source both has them as 150mm and 6 inches - so I'm very sorry, I just just reading off the table and suspect Conways of messing it up (they do have a few typos). I'm very sorry about that, given the cruiser clearly isn't Dutch, it made things a good deal harder.
Gotta run to have dinner now, will post another ship up afterwards.
Apparently it's just that people like their numbers rounded, the German "15cm" guns are actually 149.1 mm / 5.87 inch in caliber.
It's often confusing as even guns of the same purpose from the same era bear inconsistencies too, like the Japanese "Type 98 10 cm AA gun" and its little brother "Type 98 8 cm AA gun", the former is precisely 100 mm, not 102 mm/4 inch, while the latter is not 80 mm but rather 76.2 mm/3 inch.
It's often confusing as even guns of the same purpose from the same era bear inconsistencies too, like the Japanese "Type 98 10 cm AA gun" and its little brother "Type 98 8 cm AA gun", the former is precisely 100 mm, not 102 mm/4 inch, while the latter is not 80 mm but rather 76.2 mm/3 inch.
I hear ya (although I never knew about the German guns being 149mm). At the start of the section on Japan, Conways' mentions the Japanese apparently rounded off their calibres to the nearest centimetre in their official records, resulting in a bunch of differences of 0.1 of an inch between different sources (even between the Conways covering 1906-21 and 1922-46!) Still, on the Almirante Cervera, the other cruisers they built at around that time all had 152mm guns, so given Wikipedia (which looked reasonably sourced) and that, I'm happy punting on it being a typo in Conways.
Anyways, that's enough typos, time for another ship
. The clue is that those mean are indeed saluting, but that the deck is not normally at that angle!
That is the IJN Zuikaku a few seconds before she stopped being IJN Zuikaku.
I figured that the only ones being crazy enough to stand and salute like that while sinking had to be late-war Japs, and this ship went down October 22nd '44 so she qualifies.
(and seing the same pic on the wiki about her kind of... gave it away )
I figured that the only ones being crazy enough to stand and salute like that while sinking had to be late-war Japs, and this ship went down October 22nd '44 so she qualifies.
(and seing the same pic on the wiki about her kind of... gave it away
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That is the IJN Zuikaku a few seconds before she stopped being IJN Zuikaku.
I figured that the only ones being crazy enough to stand and salute like that while sinking had to be late-war Japs, and this ship went down October 22nd '44 so she qualifies.
(and seing the same pic on the wiki about her kind of... gave it away
Well picked
. I didn't think it'd be a hard one (I just thought it was a pretty good pic). Off to get some kip now though, so will post something up a bit more difficult. How about..........this one
. This vessel was part of a fairly large class (over 20)....