As long as this petition for "asia" isn't just really wanting something done with the orient and is indeed wanting the whole continent a good looking to.
Petition for One Last Expansion After HTTT: Europa Universalis 3: The Asian Dynasties
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We are working on it in WWM.
Also, rather than asia, I think it is Muslim countries that need a redoing.
If the expansion were to focus on empires like the Mughals in India I would be all for it.
While I do support this, in My Japan game Korea is still fine in 1556 and Ming is over 50% in rebel control.
Ming gets overcome by rebels, and then breaks, and is back at 100% of where it was. At least that's how it was in IN.
But that is only because the Ming AI insists on marching big stacks into tropical provinces, no? (Or is there another reason I'm not aware of?) Not a very good reflection of the actual difficulties of running the place.
We are agreed that a "rest of the world" expansion would be nice.
how bout a rest of the world and christianity too, or else two expansions would be needed for it to be perfect. they can put both in it and then everyone would be happy.
But theres still the same problem of, for an asian expansion paradox would need to do all new research which is alot of time and work for an expansion and would probably cost them alot more than theyd make off it.
But theres still the same problem of, for an asian expansion paradox would need to do all new research which is alot of time and work for an expansion and would probably cost them alot more than theyd make off it.
I honestly don't know how dificult it is to be Ming, however yes I do agree, the game is entirely focused on Europe, and Europe is done beautifully, but the rest of the world needs some work.
Most of those are in asia though
Honestly while it would definately be nice with an expanded asian game I don't have confidence in paradox being able to carry out an expansion for asia (or perhaps even rotw in general?). The farther from europe you come the worse their research is. EU3s asia is pretty messed up, they've mixed up countries, dynasties and thrown in some fantasy countries for good meassure...
In general their research for rotw hasn't been the best in their games. They like making games about early modern europe after all and at this they are quite good. They've just given us an excellent expansion. While a new one for asia would be very nice I wouldn't count on it. Should they want to make another expansion I hope they would focus on the engine itself, give us a more detailed economy (just this would make for a huge expansion for asia in particular as the world economy to a very large degree was dependent on asia for all of the game's timeframe) and a better simulation of religions and cultures (in particular minority religion culture which would again make a huge difference in asia in general and in India in particular as the most of the states there where ruled by a cultural and religious, foreign minority). Enginewise Central Asia would also benefit greatly from a better way to simulate the nomadic tribes there.
Paradox has however provided us with a wonderfull engine and quite good research for europe and the areas immediately adjacent to it. It's entirely possible to mod the asian setup to greater accuracy with the current engine as the region isn't so different from europe as one might think. It is however quite different from how it's currently moddeled
but I doubt that means we'll see an expansion just for it (I would of course be very happy if one was announced though).
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We're working on it
. Soon my Maratha Confederacy and Mughal Empire will be amazing in mechanics. Not to mention the warring rajput states
Apart from the WWM people, I'm also working on a mod specifically for asia (I started this long ago before they started expanding their indian theatre but for one man it does take some time). So far I've mostly been reworking india and persia/central asia, but it's planned to be an entire asian overhaul. I started reading up on the region a lot about two years ago when I was very dissapointed with my first indian game in vanilla and have since aquired quite a little library on indian and persian history
Not sure how much of a demand there is for such a mod (and there is loads still to be done so an initial release will be somewhat lacking in fluff) but as I put it together I thought I might as well release it
Time for a shameless screenshot plug:
Now this screenshot is actually a bit old, it's from IN (still working on some of the adjustments for HTTT) and since then I've actually changed the eastern himalayan region some It does give a taste of what an alternate 1399 start could look like though.
Not sure how much of a demand there is for such a mod (and there is loads still to be done so an initial release will be somewhat lacking in fluff) but as I put it together I thought I might as well release it
Time for a shameless screenshot plug:
Now this screenshot is actually a bit old, it's from IN (still working on some of the adjustments for HTTT) and since then I've actually changed the eastern himalayan region some
It does give a taste of what an alternate 1399 start could look like though.
You know you're replying to someone whose never posted in the thread before? You have no idea what my positions are.
Here's my position: its a little silly to petition for an expansion, and even sillier to petition for a specific expansion, but do as you will. I wouldn't mind four more expansions myself, but I'm not really looking for them.
But expansions make changes to the gameplay, and because all nations use the same framework, changes to gameplay would affect Europe. It's not as if the changes made in the earlier expansions only affect Europe. This is really a simple concept, and I don't know what your hang up is.
Apart from the WWM people, I'm also working on a mod specifically for asia (I started this long ago before they started expanding their indian theatre but for one man it does take some time). So far I've mostly been reworking india and persia/central asia, but it's planned to be an entire asian overhaul. I started reading up on the region a lot about two years ago when I was very dissapointed with my first indian game in vanilla and have since aquired quite a little library on indian and persian history
Not sure how much of a demand there is for such a mod (and there is loads still to be done so an initial release will be somewhat lacking in fluff) but as I put it together I thought I might as well release it
Time for a shameless screenshot plug:
Now this screenshot is actually a bit old, it's from IN (still working on some of the adjustments for HTTT) and since then I've actually changed the eastern himalayan region some
XD, so just wondering, who are the Sayids? And whos that off purple inbetween Orissa and Vijayanagara? Would that be the Reddis? Maybe we could share ideas. I still have alot of work ahead of me
Boo, Europa Universalis, take this shit to the New World, most of Europe's best adventures were in India or the Americas. Flesh out both kinds of Indians, balance the HRE with a reinvigorated British Raj, turn colonies into huge money- and prestige-makers and uhh... kick France around a bit more I suppose.
The sayids (or sayyids) where left by Timur to controll what he had conquered (well plundered more like) in India in 1398 when he sacked Delhi. As far as Timur was concerned they where the new sultans of Delhi (even though they where based in Multan). They controlled most of the punjab and would eventually oust the Tughlaqs from the throne of Delhi and become the new sultans there (though by then they had long since stopped paying respect or even attention to Timur).
And yep the blob in andhra is the reddis.
The sayyids are incorporated into vanilla HTTT in a fashion, as the ruling dynasty of Kashmir (a region they never ruled), but using the names and dates of the real Kashmiri Shah Mirs :-/
And yep the blob in andhra is the reddis.
The sayyids are incorporated into vanilla HTTT in a fashion, as the ruling dynasty of Kashmir (a region they never ruled), but using the names and dates of the real Kashmiri Shah Mirs :-/
Thanks for that info, ill do some fixing myself with that issue and make delhi weaker. I knew that timur had sacked Delhi right before the gamestart, but i didnt know how to represent it. Ill look into the sacking of delhi more. And if youre ever stuck on anything, ive been reaserching this topic ever since i started on AO for WMM (about 6 months) so PM me if you need anything.
And actually there was a Sayyid dynasty in Kashmir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Dynasty
Did some further reading, it says that in the early 1400's the Sayyids took over Delhi but continued to be the vassal of Timur, Are you gonna make Delhi a vassal of the Turmids until the Lodis? And also what is your primary culture for Delhi and the Mughals?
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I'm against this. Let Paradox work on Vict2 and in the future CK2 and maybe EU4. EU3 is finished.
