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@minority - I think there is a tendancy to equate hegemony with superiority. For example, some people see a continuous list of political dynasties, and dominance of a single language as hallmarks of a successful civilization. These are subjective values. It does not occur to people that there are other ways of conducting civilization, than by hegemony and singularity. In India, great culture flourished, but because there is no single language or script, people often equate it with being less 'successful' than China. This is an unfortunate way of thinking. In the end, both civilizations have turned out roughly the same, from a similar beginning - there just isnt as much subjective romance about singular identity attatched to India. Really all that 'India is a bewildering land of thousands of ethnicities' stuff could just as easily apply to China - because those divisions are as artificial as the supposed lack of divisions in China are.
 

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Maharaja said:
@minority - I think there is a tendancy to equate hegemony with superiority. For example, some people see a continuous list of political dynasties, and dominance of a single language as hallmarks of a successful civilization. These are subjective values. It does not occur to people that there are other ways of conducting civilization, than by hegemony and singularity. In India, great culture flourished, but because there is no single language or script, people often equate it with being less 'successful' than China. This is an unfortunate way of thinking. In the end, both civilizations have turned out roughly the same, from a similar beginning - there just isnt as much subjective romance about singular identity attatched to India. Really all that 'India is a bewildering land of thousands of ethnicities' stuff could just as easily apply to China - because those divisions are as artificial as the supposed lack of divisions in China are.

Indeed. A single civilisation is just as much an arbitrary and subjective designation as well (you can just as much argue that there really isn't a single Chinese civilisation).

Subjective evaluation of how a culture is 'better' or more 'sophisticated' is only useful for those who want to spice their nationalist rhetoric up in the end.

In any case, in relation to the opening post, as long as the effects of trade from the East is well represented, I won't mind the smaller map.

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I'll sign this. hmm...I wonder if anyone remembers me...
 

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cool-toxic said:
Always nice with a expanded map, as long as it is geographical correct, historical and/or possible.



Yeah remember that Iroquios unit for EU2? :)
Actually, I do.
 

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cool-toxic said:
Always nice with a expanded map, as long as it is geographical correct, historical and/or possible.
i would already be happy if it would have 3-times more provinces, especially in italy, and if that border of the roman empire at thhe danube would be corrected too :eek:o


EDIT: and the placement of Balaton...
 
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Johan said:
Won't happen.

Johan has already said no. The thread's been dead for a few months. Resurrecting dead threads to badger the developers about features they have already said will not be included is not appreciated.

If you want to talk about modding the game, this thread has been very active. And they are talking about map mods already, so it may be right up your alley.
 
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