Personal unions development

[Thorncrag]

I hope this isn’t a really silly question but I just cannot find the answer anywhere and this doesn’t seem like a straightforward reality.

Do junior nations of personal unions develop their provinces and if so, what determines their available monarch points?

It seems the AI does develop their own provinces as I’ve noticed that integrating longtime junior nations later in the game often yields very high province development (eg East Anglia), an accomplishment that doesn’t seem to have been possible prior to forming the union.

Cheers.

 

[ChloePech]

They get points from your king, and yeah, they can

 

[Bouchart]

A junior in a personal union uses the senior's king for the purpose of monarch point generation.

The AI will spend monarch points on development. When the AI can't expand, like when they are juniors and you aren't feeding them provinces, they love to spend points on development. Farmland or grassland capitals regularly end up with 30+ development in otherwise backwater parts of the world.

 

[Metroidkirby]

and PU don't loose stability on monarch death, as you don't feed them lands or vassals they use less monarch point, and use them in developing provinces.

 

[Thorncrag]

Thanks for the responses.

I’m wondering what people’s thoughts on strategizing keeping PUs for as long as possible. You gain province development in the long run in exchange for higher diplo annexation cost. Of course I try not to integrate unions until finishing administrative ideas. Ultimately though, the more provinces you own directly the less you can develop so the question is when is it beneficial and when isn’t it.

It would stand to reason that the best course of action is to integrate as soon as possible and rerelease as vassals if need be. I’ve found that this can have unexpected results though in term of liberty desire, for instance.

I’m also wondering about how the AI taps into its administrative points, what their banked limit is (presume it’s about 999 as is typical), and what prompts the AI to spend it on development and when.

Cheers.

 

[bradles0]

the junior partner in a PU (and vassals) functions just like any other AI nation, except it can't declare war

 

[Dominion]

Thanks for the responses.

I’m wondering what people’s thoughts on strategizing keeping PUs for as long as possible.

PUs have lower LD by default, so you handle them like vassals with the exception of feeding them a bit more than you could if they were a vassal.

 

[Bouchart]

PUs have lower LD by default, so you handle them like vassals with the exception of feeding them a bit more than you could if they were a vassal.

On the other hand, you can inherit PUs for free on monarch death, but they need to be relatively small.

 

[Dominion]

On the other hand, you can inherit PUs for free on monarch death, but they need to be relatively small.

Dip*5 vs dev means you can eat 200 dev with 3 dip rep. That's nothing.
On top of that it suffices to inherit a single nation. All other viable nations will get inherited as well.
So all you need to do is keep a small PU, then push your massive PUs to 1% chance right before your 50 years are up.
Salzburg is a prime candidate for the jump. They die a lot once they become a monarchy.

Saw some screens recently of someone playing the PU game with Austria. Inherited ~2k dev when his monarch died.

It's a pretty fun style. Bit too luck based for my liking, but extremely lucrative.