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One of the most important social-political groups in modern Persia was a Qizilbash. This quasi-military order was a major force in the early stages of a new Persia. Later they was a source of problems and main blocker reform.

IMO - Qizilbash should be as estates.

Triggers
Code:
trigger = { 
  tag = PER
  NOT = { technology_group = western }
}

Influence
Base - 20%
+5% if iqta or tribal
+10% if low/medium legitimacy monarch or heir
+5% if has idea group religious_ideas
-10% if has modifitier per_abbas_advisors
+20% if has modifitier per_political_fragmentation_timer
+20% if has modifitier per_political_turmoil_timer

Loyalty
Base -5%
-5% if low piety
+5% if high piety
+5% if has idea group religious_ideas
-15% if low/medium legitimacy monarch or heir
-20% if has modifitier per_abbas_advisors
-20% if has modifitier per_political_fragmentation_timer
-20% if has modifitier per_political_turmoil_timer
+30% if war with CB "reconquista"
-30% if NOT = { religion = shiite }
+30% if war with CB "holy war"
-100% if lose in war
-50% if is rebel pretender
-100% if on westernized

Territory
Min. 25%
-5% if MIL and ADM 4+
Minimal LA 33%
Local autonomy is negated for Land force limit and Local manpower

if low loyality
Profince +5 unrest
-5/10/15/20% manpower
-10/15/20/25% force limit
+5/10/15/20% stability cost
+0,3 WE grow
-10% MIL-tech cost

if high loyality
Profince +15% local manpower
+2,5/5/7,5/10% Recover army morale speed
+20% MIL-tech cost

if VERY high loyality
Profince +15% local manpower and
-0/2,5/5/7,5% stability cost
+2,5/5/7,5/10% Recover army morale speed
+30% MIL-tech cost
 
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Yes, I think this makes a lot of sense historically, can you supply some events that could fire based upon them?
 

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I'm not good in event-conceptor, but can try :)

Event 1 - Grant lands
Desc: Qizilbash offer an increase in its war effort in exchange for new grants lands
Option A: Ok (Random province with "no estate control" obtained "Qizilbash control" and +30% LA. Land maintenance -15%; manpower +15% for 10 years' Qizilbash loyality +10%)
Option B: No (Qizilbash loyality -10%)

Event 2 - Resistance to the military innovations
Desc: Qizilbash are reluctant to successive changes in military doctrine.
Option A: They are right (-5 land tradition; MIL - 50; MIL-tech cost +20% per 10 years; Qizilbash loyality +10%)
Option B: I have right (all land with "Qizilbash control" -> unrest +3; legitymacy -15; tolerance own -1 per 10 years; Qizilbash loyality -15%)

Event 3 - Religious opposition (if Persia is not shia)
Desc: Qizilbash are deeply religious Shiites. They demand the privileges and care for their religion.
Option A: Ok (all land with "Qizilbash control" -> -100 local missionary power per 100 years; all land with "Shia religion" obtained "Qizilbash control" and +30% LA and -100 local missionary power per 100 years; Qizilbash loyality +30%; Clergy loyality -30%; Noble and Burghers loyality -10%)
Option B: No (all land with "Qizilbash control" or "Shia religion" -> unrest +4 and "religious tensions" per 20 years; if muslim +20 piety; if reformed +5 fervor etc.' Qizilbash loyality -30%; Clergy loyality +30%)
Option C (if muslim): I can be Shia (change religion to Shia; piety +100; Qizilbash loyality +30%; all sunni state -75 relations)

Event 4 - Qizilbash reveal (if Persia is not shia)
Desc: Qizilbash hid their presence. Today revealed its existence.
Option A: Ok (Random province change religion to Shia and "religious fanatics" per 10 years; Qizilbash Influence +5%; Qizilbash loyality +10%)
Option B: Not Ok (30% to random province change religion to Shia and "religious fanatics" per 10 years; Qizilbash Influence +5%; Qizilbash loyality -10%; -0,5 year income)
 
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Maybe all Shia nations could access Qizilbashes?
 

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IMO - "Ghulams" better suitable is to iqta factions. Their numbers, and territorial force was too small to manage the provinces to other estates. Ghulams had a strong influence on the court, not in state.
 

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IMO - "Ghulams" better suitable is to iqta factions. Their numbers, and territorial force was too small to manage the provinces to other estates. Ghulams had a strong influence on the court, not in state.

Didn't that change with Abbas the great? He did significantly increase their numbers and give them more and more high ranking positions in the military and over the Qizilibash
 

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Didn't that change with Abbas the great? He did significantly increase their numbers and give them more and more high ranking positions in the military and over the Qizilibash
I still think they will be better in the system of factions in iqta state. In most cases in history, they were focused on the politics of the court - not provincial politics. Situation in time of Abbas Great was an exception - not general rule.
 

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Event

Anti-sunni request
Desc: Qizilbash are fanatical Shiites. Do not agree to the current position of the Sunnis.
Trigger State religion is shia; own sunni province; this province don't have missionary actions
Option A: Ok (Qizilbash loyality +10%; sunni province convert to shia; obtained "Qizilbash control" and +30% LA; If previously been owned by another estate this estate give loyality -20%; this province lost 1 BaseTax, BaseProduction or BaseManpower)
Option B: No (Qizilbash loyality -10%; heretical tolerance +2; missionary power vs heretical -100)

Aversion to advisor
Desc: Qizilbash don't accept no-Shi'ite advisor. which has an influence on religious matters. Demand his dismissal
Trigger State religion is not shia; have active advisor "Theologian", "Philosopher" or "Inquisitor".
Option A: Ok (Qizilbash loyality +10%; ADM advisor die; RU +10)
Option B: No (Qizilbash loyality -10%; heretical or shia rebel in random owned province)

Estates actions

Demand a military reforms
Qizilbash are advocates of traditional school of war. Their skepticism to innovations military causes difficulties in reforming our army. Demand from their elders to accept military reforms.
Cooldown 20
Trigger 40 loyality; 40 Influence; not in war; monarch DIP 3
Effect -15 Influence; monarch DIP -1; MIL-technology cost -10%

Support for missionaries
Let they will use wisdom their religious personnel, to strengthen our missionaries.
Cooldown 10
Trigger 40 loyality; 40 Influence; not in war; RU isn't 100%; land tradition 15
Effect +10 Influence; -10 land tradition; +3 missionary power

Network administration on model of Order
We can use Qizilbash experience to quickly build a new local administration.
Cooldown 20
Trigger 40 loyality; 40 Influence; not in war; own non-core province
Effect +10 Influence; 10 land tradition; random non-core province grand core; obtained "Qizilbash control" and +30% LA
 
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New elements to new mechanism

Ruler Personalities

Friend of Qizilbash
desc - Ruler looked favorably on Order Qizilbash
+15 loyality for Qizilbash
-1% yearly army tradition decay
*CANNOT use anti-Qizilbash options in events

Qizilbash-scskeptic
desc - Ruler looked suspiciously on Order Qizilbash
-15 loyality for Qizilbash
+10% speed expansion of institutions
*CANNOT use pro-Qizilbash options in events

Leader Trait

School of Qizilbash
desc - Leader uses the art of war of Qizilbash
+20% morale defence

Great Power action
Send Qizilbash support
Any weaker shiite state (X) is in war with non-shiitie
X get 7,5 Military Tradition
X get +15% manpower
X get random general
 
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