Persia

[Alexander Seil]

That'd elude most Americans, just like most of the world used "Russia" instead of the Soviet Union. The only real difference between those examples and, say, Persia or the Third Reich is that opposition to them is political rather than ignorance. (Albeit as stated, the Third Reich was an official name and not the everyday name used)

You forgot that I've been one of the chief explainers of the SSR system on this forum. The Russian SFSR was not the Soviet Union. It played a vital part (obviously) and was in many ways the center of power, but it wasn't the Soviet Union. I know that Russia already exists as its own possible revolt nation, but I'm using it as an example.

Actually if anything it's more ideologically charged. Bolshevist Russia to my knowledge basically went out of style by the 30's and when one said Russia, you basically knew they weren't aware of what the Soviet Union was. The debate between Iran and Persia had to do with the direction of state culture, relations with Germany, and relations with Britain.

I'm from Russia, I know what RSFSR was, and why Russia has an independence day

The point is, however, there is no in-game reason to choose Persia over Iran, so the choice must be arbitrary. But there is a real reason to choose Soviet Union over Russia even *if* you accept the reasoning that Persia should be used as it was more popular. You can't have two nations with the same name.

However, I should correct you on the Reich thing. The official name of Germany from 1871 to 1945 was simply Deutsches Reich - the German State. Certainly no one ever officially called it the Third Reich. Wikipedia, btw, claims that the name was officially changed to Grossdeutsches Reich later on.

 

[cool-toxic]

Wikipedia, btw, claims that the name was officially changed to Grossdeutsches Reich later on.

It's not only a claim, it is the truth.

As seen on these stamps.

http://www.briefmarkenecke.de/angebot/tabellen/jpg/10942.jpg

 

[Alexander Seil]

I actually have 50 reichspfennigs in a box (it's a paper note), but I'm too lazy to check atm. But, hey, Wiki got something right

 

[jdrou]

You can't have two nations with the same name.

Actually I'm pretty sure you can; the name is only a string in a localisation file. You could have more than one tag with the same name string. Granted, it might be confusing to some. In fact multiple tags with the same name but different flags would be one way of doing a flag change assuming HoI3 follows EU3 in not having an event command to change the flag.

 

[Alexander Seil]

Actually I'm pretty sure you can; the name is only a string in a localisation file. You could have more than one tag with the same name string. Granted, it might be confusing to some. In fact multiple tags with the same name but different flags would be one way of doing a flag change assuming HoI3 follows EU3 in not having an event command to change the flag.

Technically, you can. For gameplay purposes, it's a bad idea to have 2 nations with the same name, as many players can't be arsed to remember even the names of the countries they are playing, let alone what the flags look like, so there will be many, many angry posts requesting that the names be different.

And, again, it's bad from an aesthetic standpoint.

 

[aaaaburnHOI]

This is why I am glad I live in the United States of America... USA... US...America...oh Paradox. No seriously. I understand a name change if its backed by fact. The other thing is that the English version of this game should follow English standards for things like this, otherwise we have no idea what your talking about.
If I remember correctly, the former Persian Empire was then called Persia (Achaemenid). When the leader Reza Kahn came to power he sought to eliminate outward influence. In 1935, he asked all nations to call his country Iran. Im not old enough to know what it was called then... so maybe it should be changed.
I understand the two country name thing though-----I dont like bugs.

 

[unmerged(10370)]

As has already been established: Just because a government asks the world to change their language and adopt a new name for a nation doesnt mean its done... officially or colloquially.

It wasn't until Khomeini and the Muslim Revolution of the late 1970's that the English world seriously started to adopt the word 'Iran' over 'Persia'.

During WWII, it was 'Persia' to English speakers.