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As for the bazillion stars people who say they have no lag...
Well they are either flat out lying for some reason or they don't know what lag is...

or maybe they might actually don't have the lag you are having.

Case in point me.

I've never had lag issues with the game.

dismissing experiences from other users simply because you have a different experience isn't helpfull at all, regardless which way it goes.

you should keep that in mind.
 

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or maybe they might actually don't have the lag you are having.

Case in point me.

I've never had lag issues with the game.

dismissing experiences from other users simply because you have a different experience isn't helpfull at all, regardless which way it goes.

you should keep that in mind.

I do keep that in mind. As I have said, I have not seen anyone not have these kind of performance problems, including every YouTube and twitch streamer I have ever seen play stellaris so I am not speaking just about myself.
While I know it's a logical fallacy to assume that my personal experience is equal everyone elses experiences as I have said I have yet to see a single, a single one case of people who do not have performance issues which considering the wealth of videos on YouTube alone, I must be extremely unlucky.
Would you be so kind as to post a short gif or video of a game 2350+.
I would love to see how the game runs for you. Thanks in advance
 

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or maybe they might actually don't have the lag you are having.

Case in point me.

I've never had lag issues with the game.

dismissing experiences from other users simply because you have a different experience isn't helpfull at all, regardless which way it goes.

you should keep that in mind.

I had lag due to gateways before 2.2.3 but this patch fixed it for me.

I've got a game in 2700 going with gateways around and it doesn't lag very much for me.
 

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I tried using a core un-parker and to negligible performance improvements for the 2400+ stage of the game. (Currently 2490's)
A day is about 3 seconds for me at this point. It's pretty unplayable :T

using i5-8600K CPU with 1050 TI

i'm starting to think fallen empires are created when their players are forced to start a new game.
 

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I do keep that in mind. As I have said, I have not seen anyone not have these kind of performance problems, including every YouTube and twitch streamer I have ever seen play stellaris so I am not speaking just about myself.
While I know it's a logical fallacy to assume that my personal experience is equal everyone elses experiences as I have said I have yet to see a single, a single one case of people who do not have performance issues which considering the wealth of videos on YouTube alone, I must be extremely unlucky.
Would you be so kind as to post a short gif or video of a game 2350+.
I would love to see how the game runs for you. Thanks in advance

here's a random idea:
Why should different people, with no prior connection, suddenly start making up stories about something as pointless as performance in a random game?

and why should people 'need' to go through artificial loops just for you in order to have an opinion?
 

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I do keep that in mind. As I have said, I have not seen anyone not have these kind of performance problems, including every YouTube and twitch streamer I have ever seen play stellaris so I am not speaking just about myself.
While I know it's a logical fallacy to assume that my personal experience is equal everyone elses experiences as I have said I have yet to see a single, a single one case of people who do not have performance issues which considering the wealth of videos on YouTube alone, I must be extremely unlucky.
Would you be so kind as to post a short gif or video of a game 2350+.
I would love to see how the game runs for you. Thanks in advance

And who says gamer entitlement is running wild?
 

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here's a random idea:
Why should different people, with no prior connection, suddenly start making up stories about something as pointless as performance in a random game?

and why should people 'need' to go through artificial loops just for you in order to have an opinion?

because this is the internet, and people like to tussle and do in fact enjoy just wasting other people's time.

i'm more inclined to believe people just have different sensitivity to "lag issues". like i have a pretty good computer, so late game with 2000 stars or so, just means fastest is slightly faster than normal instead of being like a month in a few seconds. sometimes i just play on normal speed to begin with if i know late game will be slow, and i just won't notice the issue.
 

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So besides mod-gutting the trade system and removing wormholes and gateways (sensible, but I can't do it in saves before I figured it out), what other options are there to address the lag?

I didn't use to get these issues, or at least when I did get late game lag it was post 2400 and it wasn't THAT bad, but right now I'm not even getting to 2400 without everything grinding to a halt.
 

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or maybe they might actually don't have the lag you are having.

Case in point me.

I've never had lag issues with the game.

dismissing experiences from other users simply because you have a different experience isn't helpfull at all, regardless which way it goes.

you should keep that in mind.

I guess it's more like "I don't have problems with choppy gameplay".
 

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Stupid Question:

Is the late game lag on the current beta branch caused by wormholes and gateways? Or other things?

Because the game has really slowed down after the Unbidden showed up and took over the L-cluster. (I should have conquered the empire that tried to open it; I just knew the Crisis would spawn near one of the entry points.)

It's weird, stuttering game play, too.

EDIT: Closing the outliner seems to help a bit, and clearing out corvettes for battleships helped a bit. But it's still stuttering even after I turned down the graphics to minimum.
 

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I've currently resorted to turning off galactic dust via console command, minimum graphics, turned off steam overlay. My game with wormholes and lgate still lags badly, so im starting a new one without either of them.

If all the above doesnt work, then....
 

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you are asuming it's choppy, even when people are saying it is not.

What's the point of communication when you aren't listening?

I'm not asuming anything, my gameplay is choppy af, tons of posts here and on reddit bashing the performance and brain dead AI, videos on youtube, and few people with apparently all PDX games in their collection are "stutter free" and "saying it is not"
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If You bother to look few pages back I've already debunked one cocky "stutter free player", I call BS again, unless you actually show your smooth gameplay past 2350+ which I'm sure You won't. The reason I'm bothering with people like You is that the devs take these posts as true and then write the sentences like "We've put in a speculative fix for performance issues some are experiencing", while the game is slugfest and in the worst state that it ever was.
 

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I'm also having massive stuttering issues from mid game onward. Stellaris' performance has never been great, but it never was as bad as this.
The video I've attached shows normal speed only, anything faster is pretty much unplayable.
This is on an i7 6700k@4.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, GTX 1060 6GB, Win 10.

@SpectralShade and anyone who doesn't suffer from lag issues:

Could you please give this savegame a try? I've tested it on multiple very different systems and on each of them the performance was dreadful.
I'm very curious how it runs for you. Please make sure to type in "3dstats" in the game's console and watch the red graph for lag spikes.
Thank you very much!
 

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The new beta patch doesn't help. The game is still very, very laggy after 2350. Gateways and wormholes are disabled, but as far as I know the performance issue with them was fixed in the last patch. So there's something other that cause the lag. Before Le Guin the game was running good, it was always a bit slower in the lategame, but far away from the current state. Oh, and I also really want to see one, just one, video from the guys who are saying it runs perfect.