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Varyar said:
Might be a little difficult as it uses the old system of radiating out from Jerusalem (which also means this map doesn't fit the period). A map centered on Rome would probably be better for our period (still would have the weird projection problem though).
I want that map! Or something like that, it would be great.. too bad it wouldn't sell though. Perhaps we could get it as a seperate scenario?
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I love it how these old maps always end in the middle of nowhere. I mean, if their guys went up to a certain point and then turned back, how the hell did they assume that the world just ends there? 
(referring to the map in the first post, not the last one)
(referring to the map in the first post, not the last one
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Writing Wraith said:
This is quite lazy, but quoted from wikipedia:
There was also contact before then between the Bactrians, Indians and Chinese.
Writing Wraith said:
Well, I myself know of three major tribes of the steppes. Going from West to East (roughly)- Sarmations, Saka and Yuezhi. These were important factions, and I know at least the first two kept diplomatic relations with Rome.
From the look of the Ptolemaic map and the circular map, I would suspect that the island is Zanzibar.
Tommyknocker said:
After our time frame more or less.
Tommyknocker said:
Official contacts or Buddhist missions? I've never come across references to extensive interaction at the state level, and most of the trade references I've seen go through S.E. Asia first.
Tommyknocker said:
Yes, we know about the ones that bordered areas with writing, but what about the ones deeper on the Steppe?
Varyar said:
Agreed - someone should make a whole mod of how the romans looked at the world, rather than how things actually were. Would be a pretty awesome concept.
Wiking said:I love it how these old maps always end in the middle of nowhere. I mean, if their guys went up to a certain point and then turned back, how the hell did they assume that the world just ends there?
(referring to the map in the first post, not the last one
They didn't assume the world ended. It just wasn't explored, and thus not mapped. The romans knew of existence of the lands beyond the "known world" they just didn't know exactally where it was or how to get there - and if they did they really didn't care enough to take the trek without a reason.
Traders and wanderers defiantly made it as far as china though the encounters were very rare. Information on these lands became almost myth, talked about over drinks but almost no one knowing even a single person who had been there.
the nice thing about the map situation is that EU Rome is still very much a work in progress. i just hope the development team has enough foresight to extend that map eastward to the indus.
To base the game around a map that is less of a top down view of the world and more of a depiction of what the consuls in Rome thought the world looked like would be an incredibly brave decision for the developers to make, and it would set the game apart from other historical strategy games with such an individual look.
However... as the name says this will be an EU game and I doubt there will be much departure from previous games in the series as far as the map type is concerned. Still, I do think this is worth serious consideration for a mod!
However... as the name says this will be an EU game and I doubt there will be much departure from previous games in the series as far as the map type is concerned. Still, I do think this is worth serious consideration for a mod!
yes I thought so too. And on the other side maybe the Cap verde Islands : these would be the southern limits of roman knowledge.wilcoxchar said:
For the time period the game covers (Republicn era) I think a "smaller" vanilla map might be in order...something like this, maybe?
Then we could have a far larger number of provinces, like in CK. It also allows for the whole of persia to be represented, I don't really like the idea of cutting it in half like it seems to be now.
Then we could have a far larger number of provinces, like in CK. It also allows for the whole of persia to be represented, I don't really like the idea of cutting it in half like it seems to be now.
muttoneer said:
Rather nonsensical, though, if you're going to play as anyone but the Romans. Particularly if the game ends up extending all the way to India.
They did know of the Canaries. As in the Ptolemy map, they were known as the fortunate Islands.Knight Richard said:
Given that there's no point in featuring the world all the way to the Indus in a game focused on expansion in the Roman world, it seems unlikely that the development team has that sort of "foresight". Stop at about the eastern edge of Roman influence somewhere in the middle of Persia to get a more compact map, a clearer game focus, and fewer bodies of water.el_dude said:
If a place isn't within a rectangle made on a Mercator projection by noting where Roman legions set foot from time to time, there's little reason to include it in EU: Rome.